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Eric: Typekey's down again.

Typekey's down again. I don't know why.

Tomorrow is another day.

Posted by Eric Burns-White at February 20, 2006 12:37 AM

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Comment from: Eric Burns [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 12:56 AM

Now it seems okay.

Life is weird.

Comment from: Dave Van Domelen [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 1:38 AM

I blame Wesley Snipes.

Comment from: mckenzee [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 1:45 AM

It's my fault.

Comment from: Eric Burns [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 2:08 AM

I blame Wesley Snipes.

You see? You see? It's not just me!

First there was Passenger 57, and then Typekey started fucking up!

Fucking Wesley Snipes!

Comment from: College Zoo [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 2:10 AM

I fault you fault and replace it with a fault of my own!

Comment from: miyaa [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 2:14 AM

Eric, life is weird. Not as weird as discovering that Funanimation is putting a whole new Dragonball Z movie on the silver screen next month. Maybe that's why Typekey couldn't handle it. Do you know how long it takes for Dragonball fighters to power up?

Comment from: Plaid Phantom [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 2:35 AM

Something like five episodes?

Comment from: Alexis Christoforides [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 3:55 AM

Wesley Snipes cannot be accused of crimes because he starred in Demolition Man.

Being associated to Demolition Man is like diplomatic immunity but it works everywhere and you can kill presidents just fine.

Comment from: larksilver [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 9:42 AM

Being associated to Demolition Man is like diplomatic immunity but it works everywhere and you can kill presidents just fine.

Also, that movie predicted the future. Schwarzenaegger is, after all, now the Governor of California...

Comment from: Wednesday White [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 9:49 AM

Not as weird as discovering that Funanimation is putting a whole new Dragonball Z movie on the silver screen next month.

Naw, man, that ain't weird. What'd be weird is if they realized that, money or no money, they'd completely fucked up by pushing the wrong Toriyama all these years.

C'mon. Tell me the world wouldn't be a better place if all those kids had been raised on Dr. Slump.

Comment from: Will "Scifantasy" Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 10:42 AM

Larksilver: And Orrin Hatch keeps pushing for a Constitutional amendment allowing naturalized citizens to hold the highest office.

Comment from: chalcara [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 1:01 PM

The thought of Schwarzenegger being President is kind of scary.

On the other hand, the term "The president is playing Terminator again" would get a totally different meaning.

Comment from: larksilver [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 1:27 PM

His re-election campaign could be something like, oh.. "I'll be back."

It could happen, I tell you. It's not even that far outside the realm of possibility that he could end up The Prez. wow.

Comment from: KennyCelican [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 1:47 PM

At least if we got Arnie in the Oval Office and he screwed up somehow, we could claim we were struck with temporary celebrity induced insanity at the polls. You know, the whole "Yeah, he's totally ruined our credibility, but it's so cool that we've got Conan the fucking Barbarian running our country. What have you got?"

*snicker*

Now there's a book I'd like to see. Conan the Commander In Chief.

Comment from: Eric Burns [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 1:54 PM

It could happen, I tell you. It's not even that far outside the realm of possibility that he could end up The Prez. wow.

Actually, at the moment it is outside the realm of possibility. The United States Constitution restricts the Presidency to native born American Citizens. Arnold isn't native born.

Comment from: larksilver [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 2:02 PM

I know he's not native born. But there is that movement to allow naturalized citizens to run...

Scary, I know.

Comment from: Kris@WLP [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 2:18 PM

Speaking of Dragonball Z, I've just begun work on another parody card game project, "Eternal Battle GZ," in which you're a fighting anime character. You gain points for stretching out the fight as long as possible, lose points for actually throwing punches... but get a sizeable point bonus for being the last one standing.

Comment from: Eric Burns [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 2:24 PM

A movement, yes.

A chance in Hell that an Amendment to the Constitution will pass allowing it? No.

Not even for Arnold. ;)

Comment from: Alexis Christoforides [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 3:02 PM

Now there's a book I'd like to see. Conan the Commander In Chief.

How about Cerebus the Prime Minister? Cerebus began as a parody of Conan.

Arnie for Pope!

Comment from: Alexis Christoforides [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 3:03 PM

Now there's a book I'd like to see. Conan the Commander In Chief.

How about Cerebus the Prime Minister? Cerebus began as a parody of Conan.

Arnie for Pope!

Comment from: KennyCelican [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 3:30 PM

Ok, here's something I don't get:

WHY are people upset about naturalized citizens becoming president? Every naturalized citizen I know personally is fairly patriotic and knowledgeable about our country's history. I suppose, to some degree, that's a natural outgrowth of the desire and process of immigrating. But there seems to be this ongoing worry that seems to run along these lines: "Oh, noes! Da tewwowists wiww sneak someone into da election, and dey will sneak tewwowists into da voting booths, and den dey will use Da Button to blows us all up! Or dey tell da army to kill us all, and make our wimmens wear birkahs!"*

Ok, reality check. If a terrorist organization REALLY REALLY wanted to get into the Oval Office, all they need to do is have Mr. And Mrs. terrorist here on holiday when Mrs. Pregnant Terrorist decants, and viola, their child has a valid claim to US citizenship. Whisk him away for 15, 20 years and indoctrinate thoroughly. Give him a bit of acting training. Now bring him back to the US and have him start working DC as an intern. By the time he's eligible to run for president based on his age, he's spent more than a decade here in the states, and has the support of plenty of people in whichever party he wants to run as. He runs, gets elected based on party recommendation, and BANG, you've got a subversive as PoTUS.

My point here is this - why are we excluding a group of people who LIKE our way of life from trying to help guide and protect it, when that exclusion doesn't actually grant us any real protection from those who would mangle us for fun and profit?

Sorry to plunk such a serious digression into such a fun discussion, but please. Someone explain this to me. I is confused.

*Sorry, I just CANT bring myself to pose this particular argument with a straight face. It's just too damned ridiculous.

Comment from: KennyCelican [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 3:32 PM

Ok, here's something I don't get:

WHY are people upset about naturalized citizens becoming president? Every naturalized citizen I know personally is fairly patriotic and knowledgeable about our country's history. I suppose, to some degree, that's a natural outgrowth of the desire and process of immigrating. But there seems to be this ongoing worry that seems to run along these lines: "Oh, noes! Da tewwowists wiww sneak someone into da election, and dey will sneak tewwowists into da voting booths, and den dey will use Da Button to blows us all up! Or dey tell da army to kill us all, and make our wimmens wear birkahs!"*

Ok, reality check. If a terrorist organization REALLY REALLY wanted to get into the Oval Office, all they need to do is have Mr. And Mrs. terrorist here on holiday when Mrs. Pregnant Terrorist decants, and viola, their child has a valid claim to US citizenship. Whisk him away for 15, 20 years and indoctrinate thoroughly. Give him a bit of acting training. Now bring him back to the US and have him start working DC as an intern. By the time he's eligible to run for president based on his age, he's spent more than a decade here in the states, and has the support of plenty of people in whichever party he wants to run as. He runs, gets elected based on party recommendation, and BANG, you've got a subversive as PoTUS.

My point here is this - why are we excluding a group of people who LIKE our way of life from trying to help guide and protect it, when that exclusion doesn't actually grant us any real protection from those who would mangle us for fun and profit?

Sorry to plunk such a serious digression into such a fun discussion, but please. Someone explain this to me. I is confused.

*Sorry, I just CANT bring myself to pose this particular argument with a straight face. It's just too damned ridiculous.

Comment from: Scarybug [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 3:37 PM

I don't have a problem with a naturalized citizen becoming president, just Arnold, who's one of the few who'd actually have a chance.

That's not really a good enough reason to keep the amendment away, I suppose. But amending the constitution is HARD, so it's not likely to happen either way.

Comment from: KennyCelican [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 3:37 PM

Huh. That's weird. I'm pretty sure I only hit 'post' once, although I did preview.

Comment from: Eric Burns [TypeKey Profile Page] posted at February 20, 2006 3:40 PM

My point here is this - why are we excluding a group of people who LIKE our way of life from trying to help guide and protect it, when that exclusion doesn't actually grant us any real protection from those who would mangle us for fun and profit?

Because the framers of the constitution wanted citizens who were first loyal to these United States, and not England, which we so recently had broken away from. If a British born citizen of the United States became President -- why, his loyalties might be questionable. He might support the Mother Country even against American interests! King George stands ready to reclaim us, you know -- don't think for a moment he doesn't, and keep your powder dry, Yankee Doodle!

*pause*

Seriously. It was a provision designed to ensure that the President's first loyalty was to America, not the United Kingdom.

So, here we are -- hundreds of years later. And you want to know why we still have that in our Constitution. And the simple answer is "because it is damn hard -- by design -- to change the Constitution." I don't think most people would bat an eye at the provision being struck... but it would be very hard to get the rather massive amount of public support needed to make an amendment to the Constitution to allow a foreign-born naturalized citizen to be President. Further, the process of getting that amendment passed would cost literally hundreds of millions of dollars, not inconsiderable amounts of which would be Taxpayer money.

It especially won't happen specifically on behalf of Arnold -- because there's no reason for Democrats to support an amendment to the Constitution to allow a popular Republican to be able to run for President. If the tables were turned, the Republicans would also be disinclined to let such a thing happen. That's part of the political game.

So, in the end -- it's not that anyone particularly cares to keep them naturalized citizens out of the Oval Office... it's that not nearly enough people would be passionate enough to spend the time, money and political capital to let them in.

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