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Eric: "Fecked" up? Since when does Sinfest eschew profanity?

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(From Sinfest. Click on the Thumbnail for full sized SUCKA!)

I am really, really digging on Sinfest these days.

Don't get me wrong. I'm always digging on Sinfest. But something really cool's going on right now. It's like character development, and junk. And what's more, it's going in unexpected directions.

First and foremost, there's Slick, who's declared his love, at last. And when Monique finally agreed to a date, he started floating on air and -- believe it or not -- ignoring other women.

Squigley, however, has seemingly screwed things up by making declarations of Monique being owned. And now Monique has declared the date is off. It looks like maybe Ishida was going the route of hitting the reset button. Maybe, just maybe.

Except... then Squigley got pulled in with the Devil. And the Devil now expects to get Slick back.

Which makes me think I don't know what's going to happen next.

And that, as we say, is cool.

Got to go. But still. There is coolness going on over to Sinfest.

Posted by Eric Burns-White at January 8, 2006 11:04 PM

Comments

Comment from: ebullientsoul posted at January 8, 2006 11:19 PM

Sinfest has been doing very well for most of last year under the radar. I'm really, really happy that we're finally seeing some development from Slick and Monique.

I still like Criminy more than any of the other characters, though.

Comment from: J Ryan Beattie posted at January 8, 2006 11:49 PM

You don't know? Well, damn. You're supposed to be our oracle, Mr. Burns. If you don't know what's going to happen, what can we mere mortals do?

Comment from: Alexis Christoforides posted at January 8, 2006 11:54 PM

Speculate our asses off!

Comment from: Thomas Blight posted at January 8, 2006 11:57 PM

he started floating on air and -- believe it or not -- ignoring other women.

Why is it more incredulous that he ignores other women than it is that he floats on air?

Sinfest is indeed an excellent read, especially recently. At first I was thinking "Oh no! Poor Piggy's going to lose his soul to help Slick!" but now I am verily confused.

Comment from: Maritza Campos posted at January 9, 2006 12:24 AM

I agree and indeed, Sinfest has been very good lately. Even the unrelated Slick/Monique strips are somehow better. I absolutely adore the dog and cat strips.

Maritza
CRFH.net

Comment from: Dave Van Domelen posted at January 9, 2006 1:27 AM

Because Slick has floated before, but not ignored other women before.

Comment from: Montykins posted at January 9, 2006 1:41 AM

The audience will cheerfully accept the impossible. The merely improbable is much less believable.

Comment from: cyco posted at January 9, 2006 1:51 AM

This storyline has me on the edge of my fecking seat!

Comment from: Abby L. posted at January 9, 2006 2:16 AM

It got me back to reading Sinfest, which I haven't done for a number of years.

Comment from: William_G posted at January 9, 2006 3:25 AM

Man, Sinfest IS under the radar, isn't it?

Ishida should go start a blood feud with someone just so we all know he's alive. I nominate Tim Buckley because he seems to be the go-to guy for some of the big names to take shots at to stir things up.

Comment from: WaveLine posted at January 9, 2006 9:48 AM

Monique and Slick be damned, I'm still choked up after seeing Pooch crying because Percival left. Ishida knows how to draw a sad little puppy.

Comment from: Paul Southworth posted at January 9, 2006 10:07 AM

We need more guys like Tatsuya in comics. Quiet, humble, and talented.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at January 9, 2006 10:38 AM

Man, Sinfest IS under the radar, isn't it?

It might help its visibility if it didn't take a three-week break every other month.

Comment from: dreamshade posted at January 9, 2006 10:52 AM

Wow, character development in Sinfest? That's crazy. Hey, did you hear about the time that Cathy got married?

...Okay, call me cynical, but somehow I can't help but think plus Ħa change...

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at January 9, 2006 11:28 AM

dreamshade -- the difference is, it was still essentially Cathy, only now she was doing Cathiesque things while building towards marriage and then after marriage. There were changes, but they were relatively minor.

Slick, Percy and Pooch, on the other hand have all shown actual growth. They've changed, and become different people.

Comment from: Shaenon posted at January 9, 2006 12:47 PM

Damn, it's great to see Sinfest get some attention. It's a great strip, it's the biggest thing on Keenspot, and nobody ever seems to talk about it. Probably because a) it doesn't usually do the big continuity storylines that get people speculating, and b) Tatsuya Ishida doesn't go around the Internet picking fights and making an ass of himself like the rest of us.

Comment from: William_G posted at January 9, 2006 2:29 PM

Tatsuya Ishida doesn't go around the Internet picking fights and making an ass of himself like the rest of us.

What?!

Dems fightin words!

Comment from: William_G posted at January 9, 2006 2:39 PM

You know though. If he really was serious about getting a sytndication deal, Pooch & Percival would be the way to go.

Comment from: Paul Southworth posted at January 9, 2006 3:40 PM

I'm sure he's thought of that.

Comment from: nedlum posted at January 9, 2006 6:55 PM

We need more guys like Tatsuya in comics. Quiet, humble, and talented.

Which I think makes his strip among the least Mary-Sueish on the web, unless he's represented by Criminy.

Comment from: Wurmwyd posted at January 9, 2006 10:15 PM

Hi there!

Am I wrong for thinking that Monique is being kind of bitchy for calling off the date just because Slick happened to MENTION it to his best friend?

I mean sure, Bacon bits there was getting a little over-possessive in defense of his friend, but really, what would she expect from him? A simple: "Hey Slick, Piggy's been telling people we're a hot item, did YOU put him up to this?" would have helped. They've known each other since forever, a little leeway wouldn't hurt.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this? [hides in shame]

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at January 9, 2006 11:45 PM

Not that I care either way about Sinfest...

But if Ishida can get away with no rivalries whatsoever, he should stay the course. Even when it helps you creatively, it's so freaking draining.

Comment from: Grev posted at January 10, 2006 12:00 AM

Wurmwyd, if that was All that happened, the date would more than likely still be on.

It's the fact that Squigs acted like his ol' piggy self that the date is off. Had he not decided to out and say "You Slick's PROPERTY!" 'Nique would've never gone off on him.

But then, Squigs is quite literally a male chauvinist Pig, so what did you expect from him?

Comment from: Maximillian posted at January 10, 2006 12:06 AM

Sinfest was my first webcomic, back in... 2000 I guess. Now it's getting really interesting. I'm so glad to see changes.

Wurm, I'd say that Monique is, first and foremost, incredibly self absorbed. (In a different way than Slick, but still.) So much so that I don't think having the best friend of her date proclaim that she's "taken" would be something she'd take lightly. I saw it as pretty in character.

Comment from: William_G posted at January 10, 2006 12:29 AM

I've been looking at the last month or so of strips since I havent read the comic for about three years. And I gotta give the guy props for changing Slick's character design away from looking like every main character in every lame university newspaper everywhere.

Comment from: DarkStar posted at January 10, 2006 10:46 AM

We need more guys like Tatsuya in comics. Quiet, humble, and talented.

Wait, what? Humble? Do you ever read his "Resistance" posts? Heh.

Anyway, I've been reading Sinfest for just about as long as I've been reading webcomics. He's done a lot of funny stuff. There's good stuff with God and the Devil, and alternate universes and parodies. He's done some touching, heartfelt stuff. He's even managed some damn cute stuff ('cause Pooch and Percival rock!). And now he's doing some deep-ish stuff. The man has tallent.

I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes. Also, I like how Percival's interlude (meeting the hot girl cat) crossed over into Slick's initial failure with Monique (just a couple of weeks back). I think that this may be some of the best continuity he's ever done.

Oh, and my speculation goes two ways:
Slick backslides a bit into his old ways and forms (pre-love) and pisses Monique off more.
OR
Slick has actually transformed and wins 'Nique over despite the accidental sabotage.
OR
(and this one is off the wall) Crimony comes to the rescue and puts things right

Comment from: pwright2 posted at January 10, 2006 2:33 PM

If I could find you a bottle of John Stark vodka (they don't carry it here in Virginia), do you think you could provide some more revolutionary humor?

OK. So, nobody ACTUALLY cares why he wrote fecked instead of

Comment from: LessThanKate posted at January 10, 2006 6:00 PM

Never really took to Sinfest. I read the first year or so of the archive and felt I got the gist of it. But if the author's latest work includes some honest to gosh character development that I suppose its worth diving back in.

Comment from: siwangmu posted at January 10, 2006 8:06 PM

Does anybody else feel like they should be finding out whether pwright2 was mysteriously abducted mid-post or something? :-p

Comment from: Escushion posted at January 10, 2006 8:18 PM

I've been reading Sinfest for a long while, but this is really the first storyline to get any emotion out of me. When they finally had a date, I was excited. And now that Porkles (man, there's so many good nicknames for Squiggly, huh?) has botched it, I'm nervous about what's going to happen between all of them.

I'm glad to see one of those comics that is usually stagnant though entertaining go in some pointed direction.

Comment from: Danalog posted at January 11, 2006 12:48 PM

oh, man, the "I can't read your tiny font" line in today's cracked me up, and I don't usually go for fourth wall humor.

Comment from: KennyCelican posted at January 11, 2006 1:32 PM

I actually had some thoughts on why he wrote fecked instead of the obvious other choice of words, but, more importantly, where can I too acquire John Stark Vodka, and if I send a bottle wrapped in Peggy Shippen fan-art, will more Starky goodness be forthcoming?

The reason why? Sinfest isn't avoiding profanity, Squiggly is. His normally unerring sense of 'I am the center of the world' has been shaken by a severe case of 'Slick is going feed me to myself one small part at a time', and he's using words he doesn't normally use. Fairly common phenomenon.

Comment from: brent posted at January 11, 2006 4:37 PM

I thought Tatsuya = Pooch and Percival's owner, not Criminy.

Comment from: Thomas Blight posted at January 11, 2006 6:34 PM

brent (whose post was in response to Nedlum, I think):

I don't know. Perhaps Tatsuya doesn't have a self-insertion at all. Generally people seem to think that Pooch and Percival's owner is Tatsuya. Others think Criminy represents Tatsuya in the more philosophical strips. I personally think Tatsuya is not in it at all, but these days it seems everyone has to have a Mary Sue or self-insertion.

Comment from: Merus posted at January 11, 2006 7:01 PM

I've basically resolved that in any strips I do I'll have a Mary Sue that is completely not involved in the storyline and has no way of contacting the characters.

Either that or have them be permanently nude, so they can't appear. It seems like the sort of thing a Mary Sue character would be able to do.

Comment from: ormond_sacker posted at January 11, 2006 10:46 PM

Couldn't they just cover themselves with their naturally flowing luxurious beautiful hair that they inherited from the beautiful, gentle, brave mother who died leaving them tragically all alone in the world?

Comment from: gwalla posted at January 12, 2006 2:40 AM

Wouldn't that not be a Mary Sue, though? A Mary Sue is specifically an idealized, thinly disguised self-insertion who is the center of attention. If she's not involved in the story at all, how can she be the Hero Of Everything?

Not all self-insertions are Mary Sues.

Comment from: Canuck-Errant posted at January 12, 2006 5:05 AM

Incidentally, Sinfest has one of the more comprehensive Wikipedia entries for a webcomic.

Comment from: Zeevico posted at January 12, 2006 6:54 AM

Personally, I think it'll all just go back to 'normal' after this plotline. 'Nique will slip through Slick's fingers and everything will be as it once was. Which is great. Because Sinfest rules, has ruled, and always will rule. And continuity is bad.

Comment from: Akilika posted at January 12, 2006 7:19 AM

Yeah, continuity is awful . . . until you start feeling like you've been reading the same comic over and over for the past ever.

Sinfest was a rather exhausting archive dive for that reason.


But I've always been a continuity whore, so . . . can't exactly say I'm unbiased here. *shrug*

Comment from: Josy posted at January 13, 2006 3:37 AM

Ormond_Sacker and Gwalla: You're both right. First and second definitions.

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