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Comment from: Abby L. posted at December 15, 2005 12:10 PM

Oh my. Chex is an adorable little harmless scamp isn't he? Isn't he, Eric?

Comment from: DarkStar posted at December 15, 2005 12:13 PM

Ha!!

Oh...

I'm really having a hard time not giggling and falling over. It's hard. Stop it.

Oh My.

Ha!!

....

PS - Sometimes, Eric, women like it when you defend them. It means you care (or something).

Comment from: Gally posted at December 15, 2005 12:19 PM

You might be in trouble, Eric. The ladies looooove the Nightmare you know. I know if he showed up at my door I'd be tempted. *G*

Comment from: Abby L. posted at December 15, 2005 12:21 PM

Oh my you're right. I forgot about his fantastic butt.

Comment from: Kneefers posted at December 15, 2005 12:21 PM

I thought it was hysterical. As soon as I read it I knew you were going to say something about it. I'm *still* chuckling...

Comment from: Egarwaen posted at December 15, 2005 12:34 PM

The "four-month" calendar line was a marvel of snark.

Comment from: RoboYuji posted at December 15, 2005 12:45 PM

What makes it better is that there are only three names actually listed, with the last month being taken up by "one other".

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at December 15, 2005 12:48 PM

I'm sure they just put different ladies in webcomicdom on different days of the week. I'm sure Chex just means the lady that keeps popping up in the middle of the week, not Ms. White.

... yeah, I don't buy it either. But we all know it's hopeless for Chex. Sure, he might have magnetism. But as Godzilla proved, women swoon for green, scaly guys, like Snarky here.

Comment from: Darrin_Bright posted at December 15, 2005 12:53 PM

Just to be pedantic, a "Women of Webcomics" calendar wouldn't be all that hard to put together. And there are obviously more than four women prominent in Webcomics (or Webcomics discourse).

Just send a few pictures to Frank Cho (or other artistic volunteers) and he/she/they could whip up a dozen splash pages somewhat quickly.

Set it up as a POD booklet, and donate all the proceeds to Child's Play, Katrina, or what have you.

Comment from: Meagen Image posted at December 15, 2005 1:01 PM

If ever a webcomic character admitted to having a crush on *me*, my boyfriend would draw a 12-page color comic where he rides into that strip on a Rent-A-Zilla, shoots the offender multiple times with Unreal Tournament weapons, and then behead them.

He's a sweetie that way.

And he'd say "Stay away from my girl" with a Texan accent. Because he's a Texan.

Comment from: Kirath posted at December 15, 2005 1:02 PM

(STAY AWAY FRUM MAH WOMAN, YE BLUE HAIRED FREA--)

Heehee!

Comment from: Benor posted at December 15, 2005 1:06 PM

Chex.

No love for Shaenon Gaerrity? No love for Ursula Vernon? And don't think that Eversummer Eve's Denise isn't crying her eyes out over this!

You cad.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at December 15, 2005 1:07 PM

And my wife wonders why I don't put her in my comics any more.

Comment from: Egarwaen posted at December 15, 2005 1:10 PM

What makes it better is that there are only three names actually listed, with the last month being taken up by "one other".

Oh yes. The whole thing is a masterpeice of snark. I could never get into the old CBN, but the new one's hooked me. Perhaps it's because it's more editorial?

Comment from: Will "Scifantasy" Frank posted at December 15, 2005 1:11 PM

If Eric suddenly had a need to kick the ass of everybody who was attracted to Wednesday, he'd turn into the living embodiment of Jay and Silent Bob at the end of Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back.

Which would be fun to watch.

Comment from: Escushion posted at December 15, 2005 1:11 PM

If you love her, let her go... To the guy with blue hair and no fashion.

Comment from: Christopher B. Wright posted at December 15, 2005 1:24 PM

See, the part *I* thought was funny was that it was a four month calendar.

Comment from: Christopher B. Wright posted at December 15, 2005 1:25 PM

Oh. I see someone has already mentioned that. Twice. Well, carry on then.

Comment from: Howard Tayler posted at December 15, 2005 1:42 PM

See, THIS is why I'm so proud to be a part of Blank Label. Everybody else does teh drama, but Kris makes me laugh at it. Seriously, I think the man is a genius, and a true master of the satirical form.

There was this one time, on Skype... wow.

Comment from: Noise Monkey posted at December 15, 2005 2:21 PM

Straub IS a genius, but his courage would be more of note here. I think Ping, for one, could probably kill him if she were so inclined. Sure, she's a nice person, but that doesn't mean she frowns on bloodshed.

Comment from: Bo Lindbergh posted at December 15, 2005 2:32 PM

Ping can set you on fire quite literally.

Comment from: Tangent posted at December 15, 2005 2:52 PM

Ways to get yourself Snarked...

1) Express some form of interest over Wednesday White. Warning, said Snark will usually involve hot lead headed your way at high velocities...

2)....

Comment from: Vincent Avatar posted at December 15, 2005 2:53 PM

Some people would ask why I would have a shrine to Straub in my closet. For those who don't understand the genius of Starslip Crisis, I point them towards this latest offering of our Lord Kristopher.

Okay, so I don't actually have the shrine, but man, Straub really does operate on his own level of wit, doesn't he?

Comment from: Vincent Avatar posted at December 15, 2005 2:56 PM

Not to become a dirty double poster, but am I the only one who wants to use "It's such the don't" in casual conversation now?

Comment from: Archon Divinus posted at December 15, 2005 3:01 PM

I love the "As seen in the lawsuit it spawned" on the calander. This is probably my favorite Chex ever. The whole thing just made me laugh out loud.

Comment from: RKMilholland posted at December 15, 2005 3:31 PM

... if I kill Wednesday, then I'll be the fairest of them all.

Comment from: Jin Wicked posted at December 15, 2005 3:35 PM

I'd be in a calendar if they let me dress as a pirate. :(

Comment from: Clint H posted at December 15, 2005 3:59 PM

I'm thinking the Lirpa for Eric and Ah Woon for Chex?

And no fancy "triOx" shots...

Comment from: Pseudowolf posted at December 15, 2005 4:06 PM

I'd be in a calendar if they let me dress as a pirate. :(

So you just gave up on the ninja costume?

Oh, and I absolutly *love* the "new" CxN. The last panel of the current one causes me to nearly collapse into laughter everytime I see it. Unfortunately, I'm at work and the effort of stifling my giggles has caused a few organs to rupture, I'm sure.

Comment from: Egarwaen posted at December 15, 2005 4:07 PM

For those who don't understand the genius of Starslip Crisis

How could anyone not understand the genius of Starslip Crisis? It's a future world dominated by art critics and snobs! It's a non-self-aware metahumour comic strip that is also a perfectly functional science fiction parody!

Or something.

Comment from: Kristofer Straub posted at December 15, 2005 4:21 PM

Jin can be the "one other!"

Comment from: Ghastly posted at December 15, 2005 4:26 PM

Hmmmm... a "Women of Webcomics" calendar eh? It could be like those tasteful nude calendars you always see being done for charities, like the Nude Fireman calendars where their dangly bits are conveniently covered with hoses, fire hydrants, and dalmations. It would definetly sell better than a "Men of Webcomics" calendar. Not too many male webcomic artists could get away with posing in the nekkid.

Which calendar would Fred Gallagher pose for?

I keeed! I keeed!

Comment from: Nate posted at December 15, 2005 4:34 PM

I laughed out loud when I saw this. I'm not sure if it was the "4 month calendar" part, "As seen in the lawsuit it spawned," the panel of Chex there at the end, or expectation of Eric's reaction.

Some of all, I think. Brilliance in 4 panels.

Comment from: Andrew Grilz posted at December 15, 2005 5:13 PM

"(STAY AWAY FRUM MAH WOMAN, YE BLUE HAIRED FREA--)"

Speaking as someone who's known Mister Burns for nearly twenty years (holy CRAP when did that happen??), I can attest to the fact that he actually handled that with an impressive degree of grace, self control and maturity.

After all, he restrained his primary instinct to hunt down and filet the little blue haired guy, the little blue haired guys family, his dog, his mailman, and that guy on the bus who sorta looks like the little blue haired guy...long enough to write about it.

My how you've grown, my old friend.

Comment from: Meagen Image posted at December 15, 2005 5:13 PM

Actually, Ghastly, pretty much all pr0n for females has the dangly bits covered up, for the very simple reason that (most?) females don't really find dangly bits that appealing. This is in stark contrast to most pr0n for males, which has the female naughty bits in such extreme closeups that you wonder why they don't just look at anatomy charts.

...what? I'm 22. I can look at pr0n if I want to.

Comment from: ebullientsoul posted at December 15, 2005 5:14 PM

This is genius...

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at December 15, 2005 6:00 PM

Meagen: We must be looking at completely different pr0n.

I don't think it has so much to do with Women Not Liking To See Genitals (I don't think we can sensibly make that sort of assessment) as the (still!?-)prevailing misconception that Women Don't Like To Look At Porn, and if we do, We Like It Soft And Arty. I don't think it's any suprise that Drummer magazine had a strong lesbian following, say.

As usual, this is a vast and sweeping oversimplification. (I'm still kinda absorbing the thread. Man.)

Comment from: Darren Bleuel posted at December 15, 2005 6:40 PM

If you love her, let her go... To the guy with blue hair and no fashion.

I fully support this statement and/or cause.

Comment from: Wistful Dreamer posted at December 15, 2005 7:21 PM

"Hmmmm... a "Women of Webcomics" calendar eh? It could be like those tasteful nude calendars you always see being done for charities, like the Nude Fireman calendars where their dangly bits are conveniently covered with hoses, fire hydrants, and dalmations. It would definetly sell better than a "Men of Webcomics" calendar. Not too many male webcomic artists could get away with posing in the nekkid."

Why do we have to assume that a calender of the "Women of Webcomics" has to be all cheesecakey? What if we want to see them at work. You know, drawing, inking, (in Wednesday's case, critiquing), etc? Wouldn't Jin be just as good an "other one" with ink all over her hands and a "blacktooth" from chewing on her pens? Okay, maybe it's just me then. I'll be quiet now.

Meagen, 1) you don't have to give us an age to justify a pr0n collection (unless you're 17-). 2) it's only a small sub-field of pr0n for men that focus specifically on the female naughty bits (and another sub field focusing on the jiggly bits).

Weds, I've always heard the saying, "There's girl on girl pr0n, and then there's lesbian pr0n." Are you saying that that is not the case in your understanding of the facts?

Comment from: Shaenon posted at December 15, 2005 7:44 PM

First, the strip makes it clear that this is a "Ladies of Webcomics DISCOURSE" calendar, so not just any woman involved in webcomics is eligible. Otherwise you could just fill all twelve months with the Pants Press group in quasi-lesbian cheesecake arrangements.

Second, I want to hear nominees for the Men of Webcomics calendar.

Comment from: Nich posted at December 15, 2005 7:48 PM

Well, I figure David Willis is a shoo-in. He's already got the exhibitionist streak.

Comment from: Ghastly posted at December 15, 2005 8:11 PM

Hey hey ladies, Willis isn't the only webcomic artist giving you the good stuff.

And by golly there's no reason a "Women of Webcomics" calendar can't feature them at work, in skimpy costumes and cheesecake poses.

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at December 15, 2005 8:14 PM

WD: I'm not saying that at all. What I am saying is that it's a misapprehension that porn-seeking women of any given orientation are utterly disinterested in the genitals, or that there isn't, say, vulva on parade for us. (Or wang. Or whatever else.)

The parades are different, but they're still there. (And did Betty Dodson's slideshow teach us nothing, back in the day?)

We don't have a very good way of ascertaining the "most women" thing, because anything out there predicated on that assumption is *predicated on an assumption*. We do know that the market for more explicit material exists, and has only grown over time.

My guess is that the issue is less one of seeing genitals at all and more one of tasteful presentation thereof -- but that's not a gendered issue, either, that's just aesthetic. And Meagen does touch on that.

Comment from: Robert Hutchinson posted at December 15, 2005 8:16 PM

(steadfastly ignoring Harry Potter and Larry King)

This is like Real Person Comics or something. I'm afraid to think about it too much. Not that it wasn't hilarious, or packed with ... hilarity.

Winona who?

Comment from: larksilver posted at December 15, 2005 8:32 PM

It's funny, I was wondering if Darren Bleuel would see this and comment... and tada! There he is. hehehe

As for pr0n: I don't mind the dangly bits showing - in fact, it is possible for those bits to be attractive, in a weird way. I take exception, however, with the massive quantities of pr0n out there that seem to be all about "f*ck that b*tch," "took advantage of that slut" and "made her cry in pain" etc. yuuuuck.

Comment from: Wrye posted at December 15, 2005 9:53 PM

If Jin dresses as a Pirate, will her Rat army be parrots?

Damn, now I'm thinking Muppet Treasure Island.

Anyway, if in doubt, remember one simple rule: if someone else likes it, it's pr0n. If you like it, it's erotica.

Comment from: Kristofer Straub posted at December 15, 2005 10:02 PM

Whoa, wait a second. Willis? Ghastly? Let's bury them somewhere in the autumnal months, if you know what I'm saying. I'm-a be bringing summer to that Men of Webcomics calendar.

Comment from: Ghastly posted at December 15, 2005 10:04 PM

What happened to the good old days when porn was just buxxom gals in frilly french maid uniforms receiving erotic bare-bottomed spankings.

By golly, bring back the classics!

Comment from: UrsulaV posted at December 15, 2005 10:22 PM

Classic cheesecake for all! Now that was good clean fun.

Relatively speaking.

Comment from: Wistful Dreamer posted at December 15, 2005 10:38 PM

"WD: I'm not saying that at all. What I am saying is that it's a misapprehension that porn-seeking women of any given orientation are utterly disinterested in the genitals, or that there isn't, say, vulva on parade for us. (Or wang. Or whatever else."

okay. I was commenting on the lesbians liking Drummer (which I'm assuming is a mag marketed towards men). When I was a teen, both a lesbian friend of mine and I both crushed on the same girl (neither of us got her), and I've had tried for a decade now to have a mature, informed discussion about the differences between my attraction to a woman and a lesbian's (or your attraction to a guy and a gay man's).

"My guess is that the issue is less one of seeing genitals at all and more one of tasteful presentation thereof -- but that's not a gendered issue, either, that's just aesthetic."

I think most people agree that most of the stuff out there isn't very tasteful in its presentation.

"What happened to the good old days when porn was just buxxom gals in frilly french maid uniforms receiving erotic bare-bottomed spankings."

It's become big anough business that it has diverged into all sorts of niches. From french maid S&M (which was only good clean fun in the softcore establishments, UrsulaV) to Drummer to the stuff LArksilver is talking about. It's very disturbing for us white bread types.

Comment from: undauntra posted at December 15, 2005 10:41 PM

Nah, chicks don't dig sensitive guys. The whole sensitivity thing is overrated.

Comment from: cyco posted at December 15, 2005 10:51 PM

At this rate, Blank Label might as well just make their own calendar and be done with it. Of course, with only 9 artists, I'm sure Mr. Straub will see fit to take the summer months all for himself.

...Just please, for the love of God, keep your pants on.

Comment from: Josy posted at December 15, 2005 10:59 PM

See, this is why I come to Websnark. Where else could I find such a tidy collection of pictures of my favorite nekkid webcartoonists?

Well, half-nekkid, anyway, but I'll take what I can get.

Comment from: Tice with a J posted at December 16, 2005 12:31 AM

Well, we now have three guys to pose for the webcomics calendar. Who will be the "one other"?

Who likes women who make webcomics?
Sensitive new-age guys...

Comment from: Thomas Blight posted at December 16, 2005 12:32 AM

Besides, what woman wouldn't want to see the adipose ninja in his birthday suit?

Come on, Eric. Do it for charity, man.

Comment from: mckenzee posted at December 16, 2005 12:32 AM

I think I need to keep my camera handy over the holidays this year.

Comment from: Robert Hutchinson posted at December 16, 2005 12:32 AM

I don't know, where else?

Oh, wait, it wasn't that sort of question, was it.

Comment from: Robert Hutchinson posted at December 16, 2005 12:34 AM

Dammit, I had 90 minutes of silence behind my context-free response, and I got sniped *times three*.

I would like to accept everyone's thanks, at this point, for my not being a webcartoonist.

Comment from: ItsWalky posted at December 16, 2005 12:44 AM

God damn, I'm hot!

Comment from: Bookworm posted at December 16, 2005 2:30 AM

There already IS a Blank Label Comics calendar.

http://www.lulu.com/content/188776

Clicky, Likey, Buy(ey)

BW

Comment from: ItsWalky posted at December 16, 2005 3:18 AM

And word on the street is, a Wapsi Square pinup is possibly more hotter than one of myself, Straub, or even Ghastly. Well, maybe not Ghastly.

Man knows how to wear suspenders.

Comment from: Godspiel posted at December 16, 2005 4:24 AM

"If Jin dresses as a Pirate, will her Rat army be parrots?"

One of Steve Purcell's Sam and Max comics featured a pirate ship being pulled across land by a team of rodents. Myabe we could get her in a dingy.

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at December 16, 2005 6:49 AM

Who likes women who make webcomics? Sensitive new-age guys...

Who's concerned about your unrelated writing?

(doo-doo-doo doo, doo, doo)

....

"Well, we're interested, $CHRISTINE_LAVIN_IMPERSONATOR, but not that interested."

Well, I guess it's more important t'see boobies (la la la la la la)...

(Annoyingly, the first version I ever heard of this song was on the initial Bitchin' Babes concert album, so I didn't know why it was funny that someone sang along with that bit for, like, months.)

Incidentally, twelve+ hours later and I'm still completely all, "How the heck can Chex be even ironically crushy on me?!" For the record.

Comment from: Canuck-Errant posted at December 16, 2005 8:23 AM

Odd, I read it as "Women of Webcomics /Discourse/", which would mean the women that discuss webcomics on a regular basis and not just webcomic characters.

AFAIK, there are not all that many of those.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at December 16, 2005 9:13 AM

My only question about Jin as a pirate - do pirates wear top hats?

Though I now have a mental image of Mr. Peanut carrying a saber, wearing an eyepatch instead of a monacle, and yelling "Yarrrr!"

Comment from: RyanE posted at December 16, 2005 12:11 PM

One other.....
http://www.ryanestrada.com/phiphi/postcard1.jpg

Comment from: Josy posted at December 16, 2005 6:06 PM

...What? Oh come on. That doesn't count.

Also, out of curiosity, since there seems to be general agreement that she's definitely posing (in pirate garb) for this calendar, does Jin actually count as a Lady of Webcomic Discourse, or is the calendar being renamed?

Comment from: bartles69 posted at December 16, 2005 7:31 PM

Josy: Given that Jin is engaging in Webcomic Discourse on this very blog (nobody said they had to be hosting their own website) and should be considered a Lady until proved otherwise, I'd say the calendar name is safe.
Hats off to the blue-haired freak for this one!

Comment from: cencithomas posted at December 16, 2005 7:58 PM

Though I now have a mental image of Mr. Peanut carrying a saber, wearing an eyepatch instead of a monacle, and yelling "Yarrrr!"

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/sdaghwqhF/MrPeanutPirate.jpg

(OK, so it's a dagger. And I'm a rotten artist. So what. ;-p)

Comment from: Kristofer Straub posted at December 16, 2005 8:35 PM

If there was any cause to do a real calendar, I would do it all tongue-in-cheek. I had this idea to do something like xxxwebcartoonistpics.com and just make a mockup of a subscription site featuring anyone who wanted to send in a PG-13-at-worst picture.

So if anyone wants in, man or woman, e-mail me.

Comment from: Ghastly posted at December 16, 2005 9:27 PM

But what charity would ever want to be supported by semi-naked webcomic artists?

Hmmmm... what disease or social plight do people think of when they think "semi-naked webcomic artists". Hmmmmmm...

Comment from: Kristofer Straub posted at December 16, 2005 9:49 PM

Charity?

Comment from: Tyck posted at December 16, 2005 9:53 PM

Hmmmm... what disease or social plight do people think of when they think "semi-naked webcomic artists". Hmmmmmm...

The Association For Clothing Webcomic Artists? We could have a charity featuring semi-naked webcomic artists with the goal of..getting those artists to put their clothes back on..this concept may perhaps need more thought.

Comment from: quiller posted at December 16, 2005 11:12 PM

You know, if it ever came up where I was putting "Sensitive New Age Guys" on a broadcast or music mix, I'd feel compelled to follow it up with Julie Brown's "I Like 'Em Big and Stupid". It's Point Counterpoint, except not.

Comment from: larksilver posted at December 17, 2005 2:11 AM

I like 'em big and.. real dumb. Oh, man, that brings back memories. Such a great, silly thing. Then of course they're "B L O N D"

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