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Anywhere but Here

(From Anywhere but Here! Click on the thumbnail for full sized competitive flower toss)

It's an axiom of the webcomics world that there will always be a lot more strips out there that you've never heard of than there are ones you have. I read a truly pathetic impressive number of comics in my day, these days, and yet I keep coming across strips or having strips recommended that... well, just managed never to hit my radar.

In the last few days, for example, I've been exposed to Jason Siebels's comic strip Anywhere But Here. And I've absorbed the archives wholesale as a result. It's been a while since I've been into a full on Archive Trawl on the basis of a few test strips. It's kind of nice, really.

One thing I love -- I mean, love -- about this strip is the clear, heavy influence it draws from Doonesbury. Particularly early Doonesbury. Not only in the art -- though the art influence is clear. The banter between the characters, the occasional flights into magic realism, the sophistication of reference, even the type and execution of running jokes just put me in mind of Trudeau. That just doesn't happen very often.

And the fact that it has little to no Manga influence at all is, to be honest, refreshing. And it fits the entire principle of the strip, really. The lead is a Jazz musician in a world... well, not conducive to Jazz.

(The lead also doesn't have a name. Which I didn't realize until I went to type it here. Dude.)

It's a fun strip, with a good sense of humor and a good sense of pacing. And a weird gap in its archive -- as near as I can tell, Seibels started drawing the strip for realsies in 2004/2005, but went back and figured out where the beginning of his story would have been, back in 2003, and is slowly filling in a "realtime backstory." Which is actually kind of a cool idea. (He also did those early 2003 strips in color, in kind of a reverse Wizard of Oz thing -- his lead began life in Oz, and then had to move to Kansas, so he went from color to black and white. (Only instead of Oz, it's North Dakota.)

Anyway. Accept on faith that it's all in media res, jump on in, and enjoy yourself.

Also, there's a Guardian Devil. I mean, dude.

Oh... did I forget to mention... he's updating today's update over the course of the day, doing twenty-five normal strips in the process in a five page 'spread?'

Yeah.

Posted by Eric Burns-White at December 6, 2005 8:59 AM

Comments

Comment from: Abby L. posted at December 6, 2005 9:11 AM

Yeah, yeah, it's cool and all that he's going back, but A. It's making the rest of us look bad, and B. it's ruining my perfect having-read-the-archives. Curse you Jason S!!!! CURSE YOUUUUUUUU!!!

Comment from: Paul Southworth posted at December 6, 2005 9:18 AM

Dude, I mean, Dude. Dude.

Dude? DUDE

Comment from: Pseudowolf posted at December 6, 2005 9:31 AM

You know, I never realized the lead had no name until you pointed it out. Wow.

Also, he's filling in a backstory in the archives?? Is that even legal??

Comment from: Dave Van Domelen posted at December 6, 2005 9:48 AM

As long as he's letting people know when new old content is up, sure it's legal. Sneaking it in like Willis is on It's Walky is dirty pool (although he's now finally saying when he's redone more strips).

Comment from: Pseudowolf posted at December 6, 2005 10:05 AM

I must have missed where he said that, because I didn't even know about that until Eric pointed it out. Anyway, I'm glad he mentioned it before I read the update(s) for today because otherwise the final strip on today's Page 4 would have been much less meaningful.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at December 6, 2005 11:03 AM

I'm going to resist the mighty urge to go off on a 2000-word essay on my own about manga - especially since Eric seems to not like it much at all.

I am tempted by this idea, though... partly because I miss Doonesbury from even 10 years ago, when it felt like there wasn't as much weighing the strip down (which, for a stip so focused on current events, was an inevitability). Looks like it would be a real kick to read.

Comment from: The posted at December 6, 2005 11:15 AM

Well...I'm kind of ambivalent about this strip. I read all the archives when I should have been writing a paper, so that's a point towards its addictiveness. However, the current story arc, hell, half of the entire plot of this "third season" just rubs me the wrong way. It's well done, but I'm not suckered in to the emotion, which is crucial for sequences like the one going on right now. The reason may simply be that I'm a. effectively starting from the middle of the story, b. more interested in the guardian devils, Death and Midwest Batman ("to the bat-tractor!") than I am with Chris, or even the main guy. Chris is a decent character, but XXXX is too, well...too little like a character and more like a stereotypical "good guy." He went from being "Guy who would ask out anything female and not ugly" to "Sensitive Guy that wants to be let in" almost instantaneously after getting his nose cut off (my god...that's it. cutting his nose down to a reasonable size cut down his libido...). My apologies for rambling, I'll summarize: Like the comic, main character not enough of a person, more an archetype, prefer side characters and plots.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at December 6, 2005 11:18 AM

I thought what Willis was doing was do-overs of existing material instead of fill-ins of never-before-seen material.

But otherwise, this is just the same thing Girl Genius is doing (except the backlog was aleady available in print). I've done it. Back in the days when my daily cartoon was a journal comic in pencil on paper cuz there was no internet yet, I moved from one city to another. When I first picked up drawing Dailies again after that, not only did I have a whole new slew of readers for a continuity some fifteen years old, but I'd just retconned* it to eliminate others' intellectual property. So I drew a volume of "flashback Dailies" summarizing the modified invented scenarios of the Dailies till then. If I ever switched over to Webcomics Nation, in addition to everything I already have on my existing two websites I'd prolly scan all those in.

* retcon, v.t. [fr. Doctor Who fandom, retroactive continuity]: to alter the existing backstory of a serial fiction.

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at December 6, 2005 11:22 AM

It's less that I dislike Manga -- I like a lot of comics with Manga influence -- and more that I find a strip that's so strongly rooted in American Newspaper tradition (Doonesbury and to a degree Bloom County, which itself was largely influenced artistically by Doonesbury) refreshing, in a day and age where Manga influence is a dime a dozen.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at December 6, 2005 11:23 AM

Oh. Well, what did you think he'd name a coffehouse chain? Apollo's?

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at December 6, 2005 11:27 AM

Hm. ABH's now broken for me. None of the images resolve.

It's on Comic Genesis, so the likelihood what traffic Websnark can send their way would even slow it down is slight.

Well, keep trying, if you haven't gotten it yet.

Comment from: Joshua posted at December 6, 2005 11:28 AM

Is it just me, or are there a bunch of missing strips in the archives? Not the missing seasons, but actual named files the server barfs when trying to dig up, like the whole New Years Blues story line, starting with 20050104.jpg?

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at December 6, 2005 11:40 AM

His server seems to be barfing in general right now, Joshua.

Comment from: larksilver posted at December 6, 2005 11:42 AM

That could be a similar symptom of the problem Eric's having with the site at the moment, Joshua?

Comment from: Ahzurdan posted at December 6, 2005 11:46 AM

Appears to be a problem with Comic Genesis (perhaps entirely, but at least one of their servers is garfing) as this is also happening on other of the comics they host.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at December 6, 2005 12:09 PM

Well, you know, I have my thoughts on manga and its influence these days...

Argh, I can't resist it. Unless Eric and/or Wednesday objects, I'll throw my 2000 word essay up here later tonight. Too much to say, and I can't hold it in anymore.

Geez, I feel bad for Jason Siebels. His comic gets its first snark, and here I am, raring to totally sidetrack the conversation.

Comment from: J.A.K posted at December 6, 2005 12:45 PM

I just found this strip a few or so ago too, and read the whole thing. The relatively fast pace compared to other webcomics (due to his multiple strip pages) and general quality's really good (plus, I was listening to Rebel Yell just as that strip came up, which was nice) are really impressive. I like the fact it seems to conciously be of a different style to most other webcomics.

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at December 6, 2005 12:52 PM

32: Um, why not put it on the Snarkoleptics LJ community? That seems the perfect place for it, and it won't get bogged down in whatever course this thread takes.

Comment from: chalcara posted at December 6, 2005 12:59 PM

*looks at some of the backissues*

Damn, I wish *I* had someone who'd fill up my apartment with roses...

Comment from: Tangent posted at December 6, 2005 1:01 PM

Dude. About. Fucking. Time. *laughs and shakes his head*

This strip has deserved a snark forever and for ten days. *chuckle* And now they're getting it in one massive dose. (Though to be honest, Jason is complaining he doesn't have the fifth page done... and it works JUST FINE with four pages and ending where it does! Sheesh! *laughter* *shakes head*)

Robert A. Howard, Tangents Webcomic Reviews
http://www.tangents.us

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at December 6, 2005 1:08 PM

Understand, when I decided to snark this particular strip, it was based on everything up to today, but not today. At that point, only page one of five was up.

I've now read through page four.

...what, was there a memo sent around webcomics this week, or something?

Comment from: Tangent posted at December 6, 2005 1:37 PM

Okay. Page 5 has now uploaded.

Bwahahahaahahahahaha!!!

I thought page 4 was the perfect stopping point. Page 5... that puts the funny back into the strip. :D It was a thing of BEAUTY!!! :D

Rob H.

Comment from: jason posted at December 6, 2005 1:38 PM

Thank you all for the kind words. I was rather extatic for hearing I got snarked this morning.

In regards to Chris' past...

NO, there was no memo, :laugh: Just chalk it up to syncronicity.

I did a rewrite of my original script for the sixth on Thursday. Quite litteraly, I was working on THAT page when I took a break and did some surfing. And then I saw QT and just started screaming obscenities :LOL:

I was actually debating taking out her "big" news after reading Friday's Questionable Content. But I really couldn't...then I saw the QoW reissue and went...man...December is one depressing month in webcomics isn't it.

So, I say, December should be WEBCOMIC SUICIDE AWARENESS MONTH. Who knows...maybe someone else will get that memo.

-Cheers
Jason

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at December 6, 2005 1:43 PM

Ah, right, I keep forgetting about that, Weds. Mostly because I don't bother much with LJ.

By the by, can I post on Snarkoleptics without revealing my LJ name? I don't like to splash that about.

Comment from: Tangent posted at December 6, 2005 2:00 PM

BTW, Eric... when I tangented ABH, it was based on the archives to date. I thought, "cool strip!" and reviewed it and moved on, reading regularly to see what he'd do next.

Four. Freaking. Days. Later. he pulled his first full-page update and I thought "Oh damn! That was freaking awesome!" and you know, it was. I've done the full-page thing (when up 'til then you've only done newsstrip format) before. It's difficult to pull off. It's time-consuming. It's aggravating. But sometimes it's the only way to tell the story.

Still. Four days later he gets another review. Because he wowwed my socks off.

And then Jason upped the ante. He went and did his first multi-page Meta-strip update (which in the archives has been shifted about so you just have to click on next-day to see, but still!) which goes to show you that Jason Siebels is insane. Certifiably. Okay, most webcartoonists are. But I mean... it could have been split into five updates. It would have worked quite well. But he had to go and give it to his fans all in one shot.

He's insane, man. Insane. And he loves his fans.

Oh. For the record: Chris Crosby, Darren Bleuel... this strip deserves to get Spotted. You don't get quality like this everyday. Or such a work ethic.

Take care, gang.

Rob H.

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at December 6, 2005 2:15 PM

32: You can't make an anonymous LJ community journal entry, although you may or may not be able to post anonymous comments (I don't remember what the settings are, since that's mckenzee's lookout).

You can, however, make a second free LJ account just to use on snarkoleptics, and that's probably the way to go.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at December 6, 2005 2:33 PM

Eh... it would be more than a little silly to make a second LJ just to do one post on Snarkoleptics. Eh, the journal name was going to be publically known eventually. I'll just use the one I have.

Though it isn't my usual nom de plume - someone long ago took 32_Footsteps as an LJ name. If the promised subject matter isn't going to be obvious enough, anyone familiar with the oeuvre of TMBG will suss out which poster is me by the end of the night.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at December 6, 2005 2:34 PM

I accidentally commented at Snarkoleptics without having signed in, "anonymously", the other morning. I got a message that comments are "screened", but the comment never showed up. I had to rewrite it from memory later.

Comment from: Eric Astor posted at December 6, 2005 3:57 PM

Damn you, Eric! I've lost track of the number of webcomics you've turned me onto by now... after a quick archive trawl (hey, it only took about 2 hours total), ABH has now joined a list of 29 webcomics I read - in fact, I open the folder in tabs a bit more than daily.

And by the way, now every single one of the webcomics that has joined this Suicide Awareness Month (at least, that's mentioned here) is one of my favorites in that folder - QoW from a long time ago, QC from... I suspect it's from a Snark, but I don't remember anymore. See what I mean?

Comment from: Chris Daily posted at December 6, 2005 4:03 PM

props to talking about another comic strip besides the three you've been talking about recently. Really. good job. nice stretch. :)

speaking of which:

Sinfest- anyone think the recent "storyline" with Pooch and Percival was fantastic? not only that, but mixed in with a plotline where Slick is asking Monique out!! Finally.

Pvp- Kringus, the demon god of christmas trees. Brilliant.

Chugworth Academy- Sally in the US open. how many panty shots are coming up in this story?

Scary go Round - John changed back to using Illustrator. and I was really starting to dig the hand drawn stuff. this happened back in November, but still.

Kristy Vs. the Zombie army- Kristy actually sees the Zombie army!! Gads!

Comment from: quiller posted at December 6, 2005 4:10 PM

Hmm, it has so many Bloom County references in it,that that has always seemed a bigger influence than Doonesbury, but the Chris storyline seemed to really make it its own strip to me.

Comment from: Ford Dent posted at December 6, 2005 4:23 PM

See? This is one of the reasons I read Websnark. Because I wouldn't get new comics to read if I didn't.

High quality storyline, and an art style I haven't seen a million times before. And here I thought I had all the original artists out there.

Also, in response to Chris' bit about Scary Go Round, you aren't the only one who was digging the hand drawn stuff. I was sad to see it go too.

Comment from: Phil Kahn posted at December 6, 2005 4:48 PM

You son of a bitch. I'm trying to reduce the amount of comics that I read. You're not helping.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at December 6, 2005 4:55 PM

I loved the Pooch & Percy thing, but I didn't notice the Allison return transition. Honestly Scary-Go-Round fails to grab me the way it grabs everyone else who talks about it (though its admitted lovechild Questionable Content zapped straight to my trawls, and it did make my sig quote one week*). If I seperated out the Why-do-I-read-this-again?s, SGR'd be there.

* "What if they have motorbikes? Motorbikes from the war?"

Comment from: larksilver posted at December 6, 2005 5:25 PM

You son of a bitch. I'm trying to reduce the amount of comics that I read. You're not helping.

This is quite possibly one of the funniest things I've read all week. And so true!

Comment from: quiller posted at December 6, 2005 5:55 PM

Re: Snark title

One of the amusing things in Deus Ex 2: Invisible War was the job you could get from Pequod's Coffee Shop to smear the reputation of their rival, QueeQueg's Coffee.

Comment from: elvedril posted at December 6, 2005 6:05 PM

Yeah add me onto the list of people who are hooked on the comic thanks to it getting snarked. So did not need another distraction to keep me from writing my thesis... Especially this soon after adding Flipside.

On the plus side I did take out a couple comics from my bookmarks. Now it's just a matter of no longer checking them and it'll all even out...

Still the Chris storyline is really interesting. Just strengthens the strange mix that is the main character. In many ways he's the typical webcomic main character (webcomic artists, and their audience obviously, love the concept of a loser geek protagonist), but in many ways he acts very differently (most obvious example: that whole long process of asking girls out in order to get to know them and see if they're 'the one' and not watnting to sleep with them if they're not). It's ths mix of being unique and being Everyman (though I might just get that vibe from the lack of name thing) that I find fascinating.

Anyway, now I'm just settling in for the long haul, I want to find out if Chris will in fact end up being the one or if he'll keep waiting for the French girl of his dreams.

Comment from: Egarwaen posted at December 6, 2005 6:33 PM

Eric?

I hate you.

kthxbye.

(Just because the comment threads have been lacking in acrimony lately. Really, you're far too good at finding addictive, well-written webcomics. I definitely agree about the Doonesbury thing - this feels like what Doonesbury would've become if Trudeau had focused on the interpersonal relationships instead of the political side of the strip. And had been totally and completely insane, to boot.)

Comment from: Freeptop posted at December 6, 2005 6:36 PM

I'm glad this snark came on a day when I don't have much to do at work. Otherwise the loss of half a day to going through the archives non-stop would have been really bad for my productivity...

The Doonesbury/Bloom County influence got me to go through the archives, but I think it was Uncle Jay that actually convinced me to add this one to my trawl - even if he doesn't show up again for a long time, the sequences with him convinced me that I'll want to read this daily.

Comment from: Levi posted at December 6, 2005 6:48 PM

I'm with elvedril here. Mr. Protagonist has enough attributes with him for me to be familiar with ("Hey! I can TOTALLY understand what he's going through!"), while having that small tang of uniqueness with him. Super-nice.

Some of the bits of it are really touching too. Damn, if I could only find the link to the "What color are my eyes" strip...

Anyhoo, our dear Jasey deserves this snark.

Comment from: elvedril posted at December 6, 2005 7:00 PM

Levi: the comic in question is here

Quickly found thanks to the review on Tangent.Panel2Panel.com

Hopefully I did that right...

Comment from: Miller posted at December 6, 2005 7:10 PM

Man, great catch, Eric. I was afraid I was going to have to do some actual work today, but the Anywhere But Here achives have saved me from that.

Comment from: Levi posted at December 6, 2005 7:52 PM

Thanks elvedril! Got it bookmarked now--

I just got reassured. That this guy? He shits awesome.

Comment from: LazySumo posted at December 6, 2005 8:58 PM

Add me to the list of archive divers, I can't image what JS's bandwidth is doing today. Also, this is my first comment on this site even though I've been reading it for a while.

Why did I de-lurk? Because you all are missing the most obvious influence this strip has!! Sure there's a ton of Doonsbury.... but check out this strip...

Here

Graphically the Dude resembles Steve Dallas as much as anyone else (and his early behavior was 100% Dallas!) and Mozillas is basically Opus with a libido. Add in the sunsets on the ranch in place of a field of dandylions and then the two devils are almost picture perfect closet monsters. Let's not forget the talking Mac computer too! Bloom Freaking County, baby!

I love it. There are aspects of the humor that make me think he's doing the best Berke Breathed that anyone (outside of the Most Holy Breathed himself) has done in forever.

Anyway, thanks for reading, I've got a permanent link to it now and will be keeping up with it. Good work!

Comment from: Prodigal posted at December 6, 2005 9:33 PM

The Pooch & Percy storyline broke the hell out of my heart when I read it in one fell swoop. Great storytelling there.

Comment from: Wrye posted at December 6, 2005 9:44 PM

Bloom Freaking County, baby!

Which itself was influenced by Doonesbury, so it's not really a contradiction. It has been argued that Doonesbury itself can trace its influences back to Pogo, but I'm not sure about that one...

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at December 6, 2005 9:56 PM

Also, given that The Dude lives in Breathed Hall, I think we all caught the blatant influence Bloom County has on this.

Comment from: matthewabel posted at December 6, 2005 10:51 PM

This comic is pretty tight.

On a side note, since reading the Websnark I have increased my webcomic reading 50%. It's awesome.

Comment from: mckenzee posted at December 6, 2005 11:03 PM

Paul: Sorry, LiveJournal isn't sending me emails about Snarkoleptics, so I didn't know I needed to unscreen anything. I'm going to go deal with that now.

32: If you want to email me the essay, I'll post it for you and credit it to 32 footsteps.

Everyone else: nothing to see here, please move along.

Eric: what Phil said.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at December 6, 2005 11:29 PM

Um... a bit late, mckenzee. It's already up. I'm going to figure that people will figure out, between the comment I left here and the huge-ass essay that appeared on Snarkoleptics, people will figure out my LJ name.

Ah well... anonymity is hardly my forte.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at December 6, 2005 11:33 PM

mckenzee: No sweat. I didn't mean to post anonymously in the first place. My sloppiness, not yours.

Comment from: Abby L. posted at December 6, 2005 11:44 PM

Screened or not, YOU should still be able to see your own screened message.

Comment from: Sean Duggan posted at December 7, 2005 12:21 AM

{rails and shakes his tiny fists in defiance at the heavens} "Damn you, Eric Burns!"

I was supposed to be asleep two hours ago. Instead, I'm going through the archives of yet another wonderful strip you've got me hooked on.

Comment from: gwalla posted at December 7, 2005 12:46 AM

mckenzee: LJ's email system has been screwed up for a while now. People are only now receiving email updates from a couple of weeks ago.

I used to wonder why a coffee chain had been named after a Battlestar Galactica character...

Comment from: BluecCelt posted at December 7, 2005 4:01 AM

Thank you Mr. Burns.

In all honesty this comic is totally giving me what I want. TeH romantic drama but quickly. Excellent snark.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at December 7, 2005 8:55 AM

Screened or not, YOU should still be able to see your own screened message.

When I posted anonymously? How would the system know I'm the poster?

Comment from: EsotericWombat posted at December 7, 2005 10:53 AM

GAH! Suicide again!

Of course, this time it's a horse of a different color; A relationship is already there, Chris already wants to top him, and furthermore it's looking like she at least has some clue as to the reason for her father's suicide (though of course we can hardly take it as read that it was because of her)

So yeah, I can't wait to see what strange creature this will be.

Comment from: siwangmu posted at December 7, 2005 1:57 PM

Okay, here's the thing. Yes, I like this comic tons and am adding it to my trawl and love Mongo and many many things. And I love the focus on the development of the relationship, because I'm a big softy. But... for this huge chunk of the archives, he's refusing sex, and we finally find out why, and it's because he's holding a torch for someone who could be either his soulmate or the imaginary woman. And we see a lot of problems between the two lovebirds, and a lot of adorable chasing each other in the rain, and they're having a big knock-down drag-out and getting everything out in the open and...

suddenly the problem is just that she wouldn't let him in emotionally. I'm not saying it's not true, but it both isn't dealing with the French woman problem and, well, I don't remember a whole lot of him pushing at her to open up in the past. Slow down and get to know him, yes. Share herself? Not so much. Also, if I'd had a giant screaming fight-where-it-all-breaks-down-and-you-let-all-the-shit-out with my boy, and then later I found out that there was this whole other issue he had with me where he didn't want to mess with me because I wasn't the woman he dreamed of and he hadn't mentioned it, I would feel as if the entire confrontation had failed. As if the parrallel views/parallax problem had extended even to the resolution. I would feel like I had suddenly been alone in that embrace, to get melodramatic about it. And if we're supposed to think that French woman problem was major before but won't cause any problems anymore, then that's weird.

Another issue I have is that I'm not sure the strip can decide whether/how much it respects Chris. Sometimes we get how flirtiness is just who Chris is, and that's something Dude needs to deal with, and sometimes we get... a character who compulsively sleeps with guys with hot rods. I want to care about Chris' psychology and development from a realistic perspective, but it's hard with what to me was a pretty ridiculous (although very funny at the time) quirk like "sleeps with hot rod guys because it's hard-wired." I think it is entirely possible that the only reason it seems so ridiculous to me is that I have never been anything resembling a small-town girl? But when we're simultaneously making fun of hicks and lampooning them cartoonishly but affectionately and trying to take her seriously, it's kinda hard. It's sort of a Monette thing, to me; somehow, amazingly, we've gotten to the point where Monette is deep and fascinating and highly lovable, but... if she started seriously struggling with a desire to fuck koalas and had strips where we were rpoud because she resisted, it would feel like an uncomfortable mix of the silly-world and the serious-world that composes the strip.

Um, this has been pretty critical so I'd like to emphasize again that I really, really like this strip.

Comment from: siwangmu posted at December 7, 2005 1:59 PM

"Also, given that The Dude lives in Breathed Hall, I think we all caught the blatant influence Bloom County has on this."

Uh, 32, did you click on the link being provided in the post you're responding to? It's that exact strip. So you're technically just seconding LazuSumo here.

Comment from: jason posted at December 7, 2005 2:14 PM

siwangmu,

I'm glad to hear you like the strip.

Yes, the Dude's issue for a GOOD part of the past year has been that Chris isn't "perfect" for him. That he DOES feel that there is someone else out there.

But, he's also trying to figure out why he's so hesitant about Chris. What is it about her that he couldn't just let HER in without second thoughts.

But are you going to bring that up in a long, drawn out, screaming match?

To quote the bard "you don't know what you've got, till it's gone." Chris may not be PERFECT for him...but she's probibly the closest thing he's had in a long time.

Cheers
-Jason

Comment from: siwangmu posted at December 7, 2005 2:22 PM

I hate when I do this, becaause I can never trust my opinions about things, but despite me already knowing all of the information you just presented, I find myself completely convinced and I forgive the Dude.

(Sometimes I can be pretty unsatisfying to argue with, I know)

Also this comic becomes super-uber favoritized because I just totally got an immediate and satisfying answer to a complaint/critique from the creator himself.

HEAR THAT, JACQUES/MILHOLLAND/ET AL? You're SO blowing it with me. Why, you could be enjoying me mighty favor even now!
(I would add Shaenon, but I never seem to have any problems with it whatsoever... must've been an extra ingredient in the Websnark Kool-Aid.)
(Also I'm clearly very talky today and feel a bit rude having the "Hey, you know, that makes sense and your comic is awesome" response all diluted with babble, but as Chris or the Dude might say, "This Is Me!" I'm sure the strip needs weird babbly fans, too.)

Comment from: siwangmu posted at December 7, 2005 2:22 PM

Hey!

His Uncle's place?

The Dude Ranch.

Heh.

Comment from: STrRedwolf posted at December 7, 2005 4:05 PM

Apologies on the server "downage". I screwed up on some configuration for everyone's accounts on CG while trying to ban Darkgate.net from pulling our comics and storing them on our servers.

Comment from: Egarwaen posted at December 7, 2005 4:23 PM

siwang: Plus, the Dude was right, and has been remarkably consistent. Chris' defences wouldn't let her get close to him. He didn't want to sleep with her until he really knew her. Encouraging her to get to know him was, I think, part of that attempt.

The fact that he was also wrong doesn't change that. Though to be fair, I think his issues with the French Girl got resolved during the arc before this one, where her ghost fades away and is replaced by the ghost of Chris. I think the "guys with hot rods" thing was just a comedically exaggerated way of showing Chris' ways of relating to men - namely, throw herself at them, but never let anything get beyond the superficial.

Amusingly, she seems to kind of be Faye's opposite number...

Also, looking at the Dude's parents, anyone want to wager on his name being "Kent"? ;)

Comment from: SFaulken posted at December 8, 2005 12:52 AM

Burns, you rotten bastard......

Between ABH and Green Avenger, I now have 2 more strips to add to *my* trawls......

You're doing a better job of impeding my productivity at work than Unfriendly ever hoped of doing......

That being said, ABH's Mac vs. PC bits are possibly some of the funniest I've ever read.....

Comment from: SFaulken posted at December 8, 2005 12:53 AM

You know, I *spellchecked* that last post, and STILL managed to screw up Userfriendly...

Comment from: Tangent posted at December 10, 2005 2:34 PM

*snicker* You know... I find it amusing that Eric and myself /both/ fixate on the fact that there's Guardian Devils in ABH. :D I mean, Dude! :D

Rob H.

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