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Eric: Very, very briefly...

I'm sick (yeah, again), so this will have to be brief.

However, I've been hearing a few things about Infinite Crisis.

I'm not going to go into it right now. I'm just going to say this:

It's possible -- possible -- that I've been wrong about this series.

More another time. I need to go lie down and die.

Posted by Eric Burns-White at November 22, 2005 11:59 PM

Comments

Comment from: Ray Radlein posted at November 23, 2005 1:42 AM

Oh, sure, this universe's version of Infinite Crisis, maybe.

Comment from: LurkerWithout posted at November 23, 2005 2:30 AM

Huh, typekey worked for once. Freaky.

Anyway, if your opinion was that it would be good, then yeah you're wrong. Because what little I've seen so far is 5 or more seperate mini-series, building into one BIG mini-series thats going to lead to them rebooting their universe. Again.

Its aggravating, watching a multitude of GOOD writers do several stupid story arcs and then try and force them together...

I'm likely going to be dropping the last few mainstream DC titles I pick up, same as I've done for Marvel...

Comment from: Alex Jeffries posted at November 23, 2005 2:50 AM

Have some chicken noodle or something. Maybe some chocolate milk. Choco milk solves every ailment.

Comment from: kirabug posted at November 23, 2005 2:56 AM

Try not to die - we'd hella-miss you.

Sleep, on the other hand, is a good plan. One I should probably be partaking of myself.

Comment from: Plaid Phantom posted at November 23, 2005 3:43 AM

Indeed, I may join you. I've always felt that zombies have all the fun.

Comment from: Frisco posted at November 23, 2005 7:00 AM

I know what your saying ... I think.
And I hope your right. I so want to see them pull this off and bring back "the fun". The rapeoverse stories are just to damn depressing.
But in my heart of hearts I find it hard to belive that it'll happen. I guess I've just gotten to jaded in my old age.

Comment from: Montykins posted at November 23, 2005 7:20 AM

Because what little I've seen so far is 5 or more seperate mini-series, building into one BIG mini-series thats going to lead to them rebooting their universe.

But the separate mini-serieses aren't Infinite Crisis. The lead-in may have been elaborately silly (in fact, I'm fairly sure it was), but that doesn't really have any bearing on quality of the BIG mini-series itself, does it?

Comment from: J.A.K posted at November 23, 2005 9:14 AM

The structure, though, if it is going to be good, is bizarre. Having a heap of miniseries seeming to be going in one direction, to show how bad this direction is in the main event they drive off people who dislike the apparent direction, leaving mainly those who like it, who'll then be driven off by the main event. Plus, they then are on the verge of turning the whole thing into a straw man argument.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at November 23, 2005 9:22 AM

In centuries to come, undergraduate English majors shall be made to write pages and pages on the incidence of the phrase "infinite crisis" in a snark about, essentially, your health.

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at November 23, 2005 9:24 AM

No, no, no no no, hon. No the siding with the French guy!

(Context: I went to buy some Teen Titans at a Borders recently. The guy behind the counter seemed absolutely delighted with my purchase, and effused in his melodious Parisian accent: "This is the perfect time to be getting back into DC. Crisis is coming back!"

This is not a good way to draw in your novice reader, I tell you what for. Don't care whether or not he's right; that's like telling me it's a great time to be dabbling in Cocoa because the shift to x86 is imminent.)

Comment from: John Lynch posted at November 23, 2005 9:47 AM

Wednesday: Did Steve Troop do the right thing in your opinion by waiting until after the reset to announce it?

Comment from: Andrew Grilz posted at November 23, 2005 11:51 AM

Hmmm...
So if you do die, and the multiverse comes back, does that mean you could be replaced with the Earth-2 Eric Burns?

He'd probably have cool silver-grey sideburns.

And a hip, stylized, yet very retro symbol on his chest.

Feel better, bud.

Comment from: John posted at November 23, 2005 12:27 PM

Weds -- big props for the Mac knowledge. I think I want you. Sorry, Eric. We can duel for her.

Comment from: Abby L. posted at November 23, 2005 1:25 PM

Yeeeehhh... I dunno. I'm intrigued by the whole Power Girl Earth-2 Let's make it fun again thing, but I don't know if I'll like where it's going. And American comics are just so hard to get into because of all the buying. Also, some of the serieses in the Countdown to and Infinite Crisis lineups were just TERRIBLE. I couldn't read more than an issue and a half of Rann-Thanagar war before I just wanted to stab my own self in the face.

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at November 23, 2005 1:37 PM

jmarstall: Erm. Thank you, but I'm very Eric's. Besides, everyone knows about the coming architecture migration and the potential hitches; no one's dumb enough to forget what happened the last time this happened, right? It's just punter quippage. :)

jlynch: If that's what he wanted to do, then, yeah, sure. I'm kind of confused as to why he doesn't go the rest of the way and disappear his prior work completely; I'm a big fan of the artist's right to make things they don't want out there anymore vanish as and when they want it to, without even having to explain it. 'Course, I, um, didn't read the work to begin with, so it's no big thing to me what happens with it. And no one really cares what I think anyway. :)

Comment from: miyaa posted at November 23, 2005 1:40 PM

Wake me up when they really alter the universe.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at November 23, 2005 2:23 PM

Erm. Thank you, but I'm very Eric's. Besides, everyone knows about the coming architecture migration and the potential hitches

One of you is moving your house across the ocean so you can get married? "Hitches" - several ceremonies - your families are of different religions, or something? I hadn't heard about this.

Thank you, I'm here all week.

Comment from: Montykins posted at November 23, 2005 2:46 PM

Also, some of the serieses in the Countdown to and Infinite Crisis lineups were just TERRIBLE. I couldn't read more than an issue and a half of Rann-Thanagar war before I just wanted to stab my own self in the face.

Agreed. On the other hand, "Day of Vengeance" had Detective Chimp in it, which was awesome. I liked that one and "Villains United" and ignored the other ones.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at November 23, 2005 2:51 PM

I'm kind of curious as to what different powers Earth-2 Eric Burns has. Maybe his site wasn't Websnark, but Dinosaur on the Web. Or maybe whoever runs Websnark on Earth-2 isn't named Eric Burns. Freaky.

I fell out of American comics, though, as it's just getting to be too many titles to keep track of one world. The last American comic series I got into was Transmetropolitan. I liked how it was entirely self-contained.

Also, the price issue got to me. Now, I just import Weekly Shonen Jump from Japan. 400 pages of comics for only $3.50 an issue. I have to like two thirty-page stories in that (and I can easily name a half dozen) in order for me to get more value from it.

Comment from: theliel posted at November 23, 2005 3:00 PM

get better!!! we needz teh snark...our precious.....

I'm just bitter than Powers is constantly fucking late....though after JTHM, rising stars and Squee i really should be used to it.

Comment from: thok posted at November 23, 2005 3:01 PM

I'm kind of curious as to what different powers Earth-2 Eric Burns has. Maybe his site wasn't Websnark, but Dinosaur on the Web. Or maybe whoever runs Websnark on Earth-2 isn't named Eric Burns. Freaky.

I'd imagine Earth-2 Eric Burns would be something like the dinosaur seen here: http://www.webcomictelethon.com/d/1037.html

Comment from: gwalla posted at November 23, 2005 3:03 PM

Villains United was actually really good. OMAC Project was okay, but felt like a run-of-the-mill JLA storyarc. The other "official" lead-in minis were pretty bad. The "stealth" lead-ins Return of Donna Troy and JSA Classified (the Power Girl arc) were good (although the fun is steadily being sucked out of Bart Allen's personality). Superman/Batman had a great moment where the multiverse is reintroduced: Bizarro and Batzarro manage to hijack the JLA's teleporters, and end up in the Batman Beyond and Superman: Red Son (an Elseworlds where Kal-El landed in the Soviet Union) realities, respectively.

Promsing points in Infinite Crisis so far: Golden Age Superman is pissed that the heroes are all acting like jerks; Booster Gold is being heroic and seems to have a plan to possibly bring back the Blue Beetle; and Animal Man is involved, along with hints that Grant Morrison's fantastic fourth-wall-breaking Second Crisis arc in Vertigo's Animal Man is in continuity.

Comment from: Abby L. posted at November 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Agreed. On the other hand, "Day of Vengeance" had Detective Chimp in it, which was awesome. I liked that one and "Villains United" and ignored the other ones.

Oh yeah, Detective Chimp was collossal, and villains united was really interesting. But I still don't know what this will come to. I don't LIKE the way that DC is right now, but I don't know if I want to toss that for something new that could be even worse. But I guess it's not really my choice.

Comment from: John posted at November 23, 2005 3:50 PM

Thank you, but I'm very Eric's.
A boyfriend's just a speedbump en route to boarding the John train, darlin'.
Besides, everyone knows about the coming architecture migration and the potential hitches
Everyone who's anyone!

Comment from: Darth Paradox posted at November 23, 2005 4:10 PM

A boyfriend's just a speedbump en route to boarding the John train, darlin'.

Hm. John train. Trains... vehicles. Mobile. Transportation... portability. Portable John.

So dating you would be like a porta-potty, then.

Try again, cowboy.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at November 23, 2005 4:13 PM

Darth Paradox, after reading that post, I came up with a comment so inappropriate, I actually won't post it, lest I ruin what little respect I have in these quarters.

It takes someone special to elicit that out of me. Take a bow.

Comment from: alschroeder posted at November 23, 2005 4:50 PM

Infinite Crisis is pretty decent. But then, I remember the ORIGINAL "Crisis on Earth-One" when it came out. Superman-Two? Luthor-One,and the postCrisis Luthor? I'm THERE.--Al, who used to be a reknowned letterhack under Al Schroeder III, and who met his wife of now 25 years in one of Julie Schwartz' lettercolumns.

Comment from: Rich Burlew posted at November 23, 2005 4:52 PM

I support any event that will result in a monthly book featuring Detective Chimp.

I felt the JSA: Classified arc was a big let down: "Hey, after all this hinting in JSA about Power Girl's secret origin, we're finally going to tell you where she came from. It's...it's..IT'S exactly what it always was, she's a leftover from Earth-2." Blech. I knew that before I read four issues about it.

Anyway, I have a pet theory about who the mastermind behind the events is, and if true, would be the greatest and most creative trick pulled on comic readers EVER by a comic company. Which probably just means that I'm wrong. Oh well.

Oh, and get better, Eric.

Comment from: John posted at November 23, 2005 6:45 PM

So dating you would be like a porta-potty, then.
Are you eight years old?

Try again, Letterman.

Comment from: LurkerWithout posted at November 23, 2005 8:00 PM

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I so hate this program.


Now I've forgotten what I was going to say...

Oh wait. "Day of Vengeance". I tried to like it. I really did. I so WANTED to like it. I mean it was written by Willingham and I adore "Fables".

But I hate character inconsistancies. I loathed OMAC because they way Max was written made absolutely no sense. Every other character? Done perfectly. Max? Had his brain replaced by aliens or something. And his cyborg body as well.

But reading thru DoV and I see a small group decide to take on the Spectre. A small group, out of a GIANT crowd scene of pretty much every major and minor mystic DC hero. I mean Azrael the Guardian Angel was there again. And he just decides to sit this one out? What the hell? Then I'm still waiting for someone to explain why Black Adam still has his powers after the Wizard and the Rock of Eternity are blown to bits...

Comment from: Abby L. posted at November 23, 2005 9:30 PM

--Al, who used to be a reknowned letterhack under Al Schroeder III, and who met his wife of now 25 years in one of Julie Schwartz' lettercolumns.

That's a fair contender for the nerdiest thing I've ever heard...

Comment from: gwalla posted at November 24, 2005 1:27 AM

Yeah, Willingham doesn't seem to believe in paying attention to how characters have been established. You should see what he did to Leslie Thompkins. Ugh.

Max's personality transplant made no sense. I'm holding out hope that he's actually the evil Max from the sleazy alternate reality in I Can't Believe It's Not The Justice League. That would also explain why he suddenly wasn't a cyborg anymore.

Comment from: Robert Hutchinson posted at November 24, 2005 2:08 AM

Hm. John train. Trains... vehicles. Mobile. Transportation... portability. Portable John.

So dating you would be like a porta-potty, then.

"You're just a big toilet I'm flushing all my money down. You're like a . . . johnny cash. Hey. Write that one down."

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at November 24, 2005 4:59 AM

A boyfriend's just a speedbump en route to boarding the John train, darlin'.

Yeah, but unsolicited declarations of userbase entitlement constitute a brick wall. :)

Comment from: larksilver posted at November 24, 2005 11:51 AM

Sometimes, the commentary on this site is erudite, and intelligent.

Other times, the commentary threads wander straight into the gutter.

Does it say something about me that I'm not sure which thread direction I like best?

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at November 24, 2005 12:30 PM

Personally, my favorite are the threads that are erudite while being in the gutter. Best of both worlds.

Comment from: Snowspinner posted at November 24, 2005 6:43 PM

It seems very much to me like Infinite Crisis is an attempt to, if not completely undo a lot of the darkness and torturedness that has entered superheroes, at least an attempt to... back up a bit. And to do so without just throwing things out the window and rebooting - to have the consequences of that vision of the DC universe have consequences, and to have those consequences be the partial death of the universe.

Which is powerful.

Comment from: gwalla posted at November 24, 2005 8:42 PM

I think I should point out that Grant Morrison is partly responsible for devevloping the post-∞C universe, and he's all about keeping a sense of fun. And, from what I understand, his Seven Soldiers meta-miniseries is our first look at the post-∞C universe, and it's been pretty awesome so far.

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