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Eric: An observation.

Nicholas Cage has gotten a lot of press because he named his son "Kal-El Cage." People are mentioning how silly it is to name his son after a super hero.

That doesn't bother me.

I'm just stunned he didn't name the kid "Luke."

Sweet Christmas indeed.

Posted by Eric Burns-White at October 7, 2005 11:46 PM

Comments

Comment from: Ardaniel posted at October 8, 2005 12:13 AM

He named himself after Luke, actually. His real last name is "Coppola."

"Clark Coppola Cage" would've been a fine, sturdy name, and far less blatant.

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at October 8, 2005 12:22 AM

He did?

(Checks Wikipedia.)

Holy crap, he did.

I have to see God of War now.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at October 8, 2005 12:35 AM

Does he still make crappy movies that make me want to vomit? If so, I don't see any reason that his choice of child names should make me think better or worse of him.

Comment from: Paul A. posted at October 8, 2005 1:53 AM

I wonder if little Kal-El will date Harley Quinn Smith when they're older...

Comment from: Archon Divinus posted at October 8, 2005 2:38 AM

I wonder why celeberties want their kids to be picked on their entire life. Do they really hate them that much?

Comment from: Mathron posted at October 8, 2005 3:26 AM

Well, I imagine that the children of celebrities are inherently going to have less than a normal life in the first place.

In any case, it ain't my kid, and aside from being both mildly amused and mildly horrified, it isn't much more than a footnote in the course of things.

Comment from: Arthur Barnhouse posted at October 8, 2005 3:29 AM

No one is going to pick on Kal-El, because his Dad is Nicholas Cage. The man has enough money that if some snot-nosed punk started talking trash about his kid, said snot-nosed punk would simply disappear, never to be heard from again.

Comment from: William_G posted at October 8, 2005 3:38 AM

Or even worse: He could tie them to a chair and force them to watch "Adaptation" repeatedly... pry their eyes open like in "A Clockwork Orange"

Comment from: Mathron posted at October 8, 2005 3:43 AM

[quote]Or even worse: He could tie them to a chair and force them to watch "Adaptation" repeatedly... pry their eyes open like in "A Clockwork Orange"[/quote]

When I was 14, my art teacher made our class watch "A Clockwork Orange".

I went home, mildly traumatized, and mentioned this to my parents. My father chuckled, and said that was his favorite movie, and that the main character had been his hero growing up.

...

That was a very strange day for me.

Comment from: Paul A. posted at October 8, 2005 4:58 AM

I wonder why celeberties want their kids to be picked on their entire life.

To be fair, I expect the proportion of child-hating celebs is about the same as the proportion of child-hating parents in the general population. We just hear about them a lot more, because they're celebrities.

Incidentally, did you know that the guy who invented the Lear jet named his daughter "Shanda"?

Comment from: Merus posted at October 8, 2005 5:25 AM

I've already decided that if I become a celebrity, my children will be named after obscure colours.

Yep, I got my priorities straight.

Comment from: Kristofer Straub posted at October 8, 2005 5:29 AM

"I've already decided that if I become a celebrity, my children will be named after obscure colours."

I look forward to meeting Fortissimo, Charm, Phon and Torque.

Comment from: Merus posted at October 8, 2005 6:01 AM

Well, the plan was that many colours sound close enough to real names, much like how you can get away with flowers for girls.

It depends on whether I end up hating all life by the time I have children. If so, my children are getting named after body parts. (That sounds bad enough; but my last name's Cramp.)

Comment from: SeanH posted at October 8, 2005 6:11 AM

I knew somebody once who named her daughter Callisto, after a villain from Xena: Warrior Princess.

I don't think she was even Greek.

Comment from: arscott posted at October 8, 2005 7:09 AM

Saw this on the Daily show the other night.

I considered the irony of a rant regarding the stupidity of naming kids after comic book characters coming from a man who changed his name to Jon Stewart.

--Alan Scott

Comment from: Paul A. posted at October 8, 2005 8:50 AM

I considered the irony of a rant regarding the stupidity of naming kids after comic book characters coming from a man who changed his name to Jon Stewart.

In the first place, given that the man's real given names are "Jonathan Stuart", I don't think he named himself after any comic book character. In the second place, there isn't any prominent comic book character named Jon Stewart anyway.

In the third place, it would depend (not having seen The Daily Show recently, I admit I don't know) what Stewart thinks is stupid about naming kids after comic book characters. I would say, myself, that it's only stupid when it's a subset of "giving kids obviously weird names", and there's nothing obviously weird about 'John Stewart' (or 'Alan Scott', for that matter).

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at October 8, 2005 10:25 AM

In the second place, there isn't any prominent comic book character named Jon Stewart anyway.

I will bet you three thousand, one hundred and seventy two dollars and sixty eight cents you're wrong. Cash on the barrelhead!

(All right, that version spells his name with an h. It's still a closer mapping than Nick Cage/Luke Cage, and John Stewart is certainly a more prominent character these days than Power Man was. But still!)

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at October 8, 2005 10:30 AM

Oh, and Jon Stewart's given surname was Leibowitz. Stuart was his middle name.

This has been Roseanne -- your guide to the world of fact!

Comment from: Benor posted at October 8, 2005 11:27 AM

Well, it could certainly be worse.

He could have been named Myzplytyk Coppola Cage.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at October 8, 2005 11:36 AM

Also, in terms of naming your kids after comic characters, some of them are a bit more acceptable than others. I don't think I'd ever name a kid "Kal-El." But you know, nobody would blink twice if I named my kid Charles Xavier Healey, or Bruce Wayne Healey. Basically, if the average person wouldn't go "what the hell?" when hearing the name, then you can get away with it.

Comment from: iconoclast posted at October 8, 2005 11:47 AM

32_footsteps: would you REALLY name your kid Bruce? REALLY?

wouldn't you worry that they would be called a poofter?

Comment from: JSW posted at October 8, 2005 12:03 PM

Saw this on the Daily show the other night.

I considered the irony of a rant regarding the stupidity of naming kids after comic book characters coming from a man who changed his name to Jon Stewart.

--Alan Scott


The thing is, "Jon Stewart" is a fairly normal name. This is more along the lines of changing your name to Kilowog or Mogo.

Comment from: Major Teroh posted at October 8, 2005 1:02 PM

The sister of one of my work colleagues called her son Neo. I was half tempted to find out where she lived, go round and slap her until she changed her mind :)

Comment from: kirabug posted at October 8, 2005 1:42 PM

Names are hard. Doesn't matter who you are. I have one friend, with two boys, found out she was having a girl and just had to give her the longest girl's name she could find. Tatiana, Madeleena, huge massive things to give kindergarteners hand cramps.

I think when it's time to name the baby the pressure just crushes some people. They'll take anything they can both agree on. When assisting clients at work, I've seen horrors.... Matthew Matthew Smith. Rusty Chain. A dozen men named Harrison Ford. Emma Tramp.

My family's got an English / Scots / Irish heritage. Yet my cousin's kids are named Nikita and Damien. My mom keeps asking when she joined the Russian mafia. She's got a third on the way and we're all holding our breath.

Comment from: PatMan posted at October 8, 2005 1:58 PM

I shall name my sone Power. All the kids will greet him with, "Power, man! How's it hangin?"


Under penalty of death.

Comment from: Robert Hutchinson posted at October 8, 2005 2:05 PM

I've seen this story mentioned in about three different places, and so far, no one I've seen has mentioned this.

(I wouldn't blame Mr. Cage for having blocked it out, mind.)

Comment from: unliz posted at October 8, 2005 2:37 PM

I think the big difference between Jon Stuart changing his name to that of one of the many Green Lanterns and Nick Cage naming his son after Superman is that Jon Stuart chose that name himself. If Nick Cage wants to change his name to Kal-El and go around like that for the rest of his life, that's his business. But he's inflicting this name on a helpless child who probably won't share his particular love of Superman. And this kid is stuck with that for the rest of his life. It'd be like me naming my kid Yoda or Darth. As a general rule of thumb, if you wouldn't tattoo something representative of the name on your child without his or her consent, then don't name them that! And if you're that into a fandom, get a tattoo on your own body and stop inflicting it on your child. It's a kid, not a collectible.

Comment from: Copper Hamster posted at October 8, 2005 2:50 PM

At least everyone can call him Kal.

I've seen some really bad names... really who names their kid Water? When their last name is already Roach.

How does Samual L. Jackson strike you? How about when you find out the owner of that name is a girl? And yes, her second name is just 'L'. She's just entering kindergarden. Thankfully she is called just 'Sam'.

Then there was the girl who's middle name was, indeed, Slut...

Kal-El is no big deal, really.

Comment from: Ardaniel posted at October 8, 2005 2:54 PM

I worked a county clerk job for a while in another career incarnation. Mom's name: "Tammy."

Kid's name: "Tammier."

I never found out whether or not she got a little Tammiest to go with all that, and I don't think I want to know.

Comment from: Matt Sweeney posted at October 8, 2005 2:57 PM

The king of weird kids names is still Frank Zappa (father of Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet, and Diva Muffin)

I also used to know a girl who thought Ramses was a great name for her son to be. I haven't seen her since she was pregnant though, so I'm not sure if she actually went through with it.

Comment from: thok posted at October 8, 2005 4:16 PM

Given that there are people who have named their kids ESPN, Kal-El doesn't seem so weird to me.

There was also the basketball player World B. Free, and high school phenom Majestic Mapp and his brother Scientific Mapp.

I just want to see somebody name their kid Sephiroth or Ultros.

Comment from: cyco posted at October 8, 2005 5:13 PM

One of my teachers from last year is named Bob Smith, so he decided to give his kids unusual names to make up for it. His sons are named Israel, Amadeus, O'Rion, and Elsworth. They all have normal middle names, however.

Also, "Kal-El" is a combination of two Hebrew words that roughly translate to "All that God is." Hey, maybe Nick Cage is just becoming more a spiritual person. Or he just likes Superman.

Comment from: Zaq posted at October 8, 2005 5:28 PM

Sephiroth would be a horrible name. Ultros, on the other hand, would be awesome.

Of course, naming a kid after a game character who, though iconic, is not an ongoing star (such as. say, Mario or something) is kind of an interesting concept, because if you think of a kid born today named, say, Squall or something, by the time he's old enough to get teased about his name, the source will be so old that few if any of his peers are likely to know about it, or at least to know about it firsthand. I mean, sure, Squall is a weird example, but take some of the other names that abound in Final Fantasy (or any game really, I'm just latching on to FF because its characters are so iconic, yet they won't be appearing in games five or ten years from now), and it really does form an interesting situation.

Snapping back to reality, the names which bother me the most are the ones which are places. I know a little girl named Madison. Madison! Let's name a girl after a city named after a male politician, that's a great idea! (A damn respectable politician, all things considered, but the point stands.) I also know a little boy named Trenton. I, for one, would not like to be name after ANY state capital, let alone Trenton. Come to think of it, I know (or have known) a lot of children with state capital names. Salem, Trenton, Madison, Cheyenne, Austin, Carson, Augusta...

Comment from: Connor Moran posted at October 8, 2005 6:32 PM

Zaq: Madison was the 3rd most popular girl's name in the United States in 2004. I think that girl will be all right.

This is all interesting, given that naming is such an important part of the Nicolas Cage story. I wonder if he's just expecting the kid to change his famous name anyway, like father like son.

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at October 8, 2005 6:33 PM

Days like this, I can't wait to get my IUD fitted.

Comment from: dagbrown posted at October 8, 2005 9:51 PM

Be very careful what you ask for....

Comment from: Paul A. posted at October 8, 2005 10:04 PM

In the second place, there isn't any prominent comic book character named Jon Stewart anyway.
I will bet you three thousand, one hundred and seventy two dollars and sixty eight cents you're wrong.

If you look, you will notice that I did mention John Stewart, so it's not that I don't know about him. But John Stewart's name is not Jon Stewart.

(I acknowledge your point about people not always using the exact name, but my point about the spelling was a only secondary consideration anyway - that's why I put it second.)

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at October 8, 2005 10:09 PM

I wouldn't shy from naming a kid Bruce. I hardly think that my naming will force a kid into a sexual orientation. And between Bruce Wayne and Bruce Lee, there's plenty of manliness in the name.

Besides, if my unborn children are gay, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, and I fully support their lifestyle, along with that of their unborn same-sex lifemates.

If I was to name my kid after something from a video game (and if anyone knows me at all, they know the subject has come up a million times), I'd go for Zelda. Just a great name. Lenneth is also on my list, and for boys I'd be willing to call a boy Cecil or Brock. And I don't want to hear a *single word* about the last one, 'kay? ;)

I really can't afford to pick too much at what people want to name their kids. Want to hear a good one? My wife and I have already decided what to name a child - a boy will be Jared Quin, and a girl will be Rhysa Luda.

Comment from: Benor posted at October 9, 2005 1:04 AM

Damn it, now I'm waiting for the Daily Show to open with "In Brightest Day, in darkest night..."

Comment from: larksilver posted at October 9, 2005 2:14 AM

32: I've known two Bruce's in my life. One was a member of my Mom's church for years, played the organ, and lived with his mother. He also closed his eyes when speaking, and read a crystal ball. I swear I'm not making it up. He was also a complete asshole, but was so passive-aggressive most people didn't realize it until they'd known him for a long time. The other was just an asshole. So I fear that the name "Bruce" just is off the list.

Having researched baby names when preggo with my son, I have discovered that names go in and out of fashion. Some names, like Matthew or Michael, never fade, while others, such as Brady or Gavin, become "old-fashioned" or otherwise unpopular. The good news is that the classic names do come back around, and although there's always some freakish one naming their kid "Placenta Marie," the majority stick with a name that won't get our kid tortured.

As for Kal-el? Well, I think that's a lot to lay on your kid. Naming your kid after anyone that.. well, SUPER gives him a lot to live up to. The whole point of a namesake is to give your child and idea of the kind of person you hope he'll be. So, what, he's going to be disappointed if his son occasionally lies, or doesn't become a hero? I doubt it, of course, but sheesh.. if the kid is prone to anxiety, there's lots for him to use just from his own name.

My nephews (all teenagers), when told of the naming choice, all said "Cool!"... so what the hell do I know?

Comment from: miyaa posted at October 9, 2005 6:18 AM

I have you beat on the naming after a city thing.

See my name is Andrew. My parents named me because of the county I grew up in, that is Andrew County in Northwest Missouri. That's right. It wasn't because Andrew's a fairly popular name, or that he was a saint or anything like that. Unlike my brother, there isn't an Andrew in my family's past. And besides, my mother is from Thailand. I'm pretty sure their language's alphabet has like 42 consants, 15 vowels and none of them equating them to the letter 'e.' I was named because of a minor geopolitical unit. I just wish my parents could have come up with a better way to pick my name.

What really urks me is when you name your kid as a joke, or a play on words, or give your kid the same name as you, with maybe a junior or a roman numeral afterward. That usually means you'll be given a nickname that probably involves some embarrassing incident or some sexual innuendo. I mean we're talking Ima Pigg bad names here.

Or Chandra Lear.

Comment from: arscott posted at October 9, 2005 6:20 AM

I think the big difference between Jon Stuart changing his name to that of one of the many Green Lanterns and Nick Cage naming his son after Superman is that Jon Stuart chose that name himself.
I didn't choose to name myself after one of the green lanterns. My parents managed to do that by accident. But I never had a problem with it. In fact, I didn't even know about it until a few years ago when I started working in a comic book store.

Yet at least a third of the people on this board know that there's a superhero named Alan Scott, and Almost All of them Know the Names John Stewart and Kal-El.

But what we don't realise is that we're the only ones that do. The only place Superman gets called Kal-El on a regular basis is in the comic books.

In Superman 1 and Superman 2 (aka the ones that people might actually watch) the name is used only five times each. In the various Cartoon iterations, he's pretty much just called Clark or Superman.

Remember that Cal (Short for Calvin) isn't a ridiculously uncommon name. In this age of "I'm Brandee with two Es and a superfluous apostrophe", will the name Kal really cause that much of a stir? The only people who notice it will be the comic book nerds (who for the most part will think it's pretty cool) and those folks who are hearing about the whole thing today (all of whom will be a little to old to taunt little Kal-El by the time he's in gradeschool).

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at October 9, 2005 9:38 AM

But what we don't realise is that we're the only ones that do. The only place Superman gets called Kal-El on a regular basis is in the comic books.

On Smallville Kal-El is what the spirit, or recording, of Jor-El calls Clark. Jor-El is not a good guy on Smallville; for the fourth season premiere Clark had a disassociative personality imposed on him by Jor-El who went by the name of Kal-El and wasn't a very nice guy either. I don't think the Cage kid is in for quite as smooth a ride as you suggest, unless he successfully elects to go by Kal only.

Comment from: Robotech_Master posted at October 9, 2005 11:51 AM

JSW:

The thing is, "Jon Stewart" is a fairly normal name. This is more along the lines of changing your name to Kilowog or Mogo.

I used to write with someone in the anime fanfic community who legally changed his name to MegaZone, and I've heard of someone in the Transformers fandom community who legally changed his name to Optimus Prime. (A firefighter, I believe, which made the fire truck Optimus Prime toy so ironic. :)

And speaking of naming someone Sephiroth, my brother and his wife named their first daughter Aeris. Seriously. Other kids are named Rowan and Guinevere, and they're planning to name the fourth kid Griffin.

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at October 9, 2005 2:16 PM

Paul:

Clark had a disassociative personality

Hotbutton: dissociative. :)

I didn't know they tried to do the stereotypical multiplicity plot with Smallville. That's really depressing.

(Next, on Things To Post Next Month: why [REDACTED] in [REDACTED] can be spotted as a fake multiple at forty paces, or your money back.)

Comment from: Aerin posted at October 9, 2005 3:53 PM

Nothing wrong with place names. For instance, Brittany's a province in France, but it's still a perfectly acceptable name. Now, it's "creative" spellings that utterly kill me. It's like their parents think they won't be special unless they have a "unique" spelling. There's a girl at my school named Krystyna, and I feel terribly sorry for her. (Seems a bit hypocritical since I go by Aerin, but I've got a damn good reason. And if you know what it is, I'll give you a cookie.)

I used to think that if I had twin girls, I'd name them Melody and Harmony. Then I realized how thorougly they'd hate me. There's always middle names, though...

Comment from: Kirath posted at October 9, 2005 5:49 PM

My job is all about names. I perform online criminal background checks for emplyers. I have seen names that would make you weep, mostly with their utter unoriginality.

Everyone knows it's common, but it would blow your mind to realize how many John Smiths there are out there.

Most of the crazy names I have seen are perfectly legitimate names, just from other countries. Indian or Middle Eastern, usually. I have seen, off the top of my head, though, a Levar, a Turok, several car names (Porche, Mercedes)and even a Saddam Hussein.

Comment from: the_iron_troll posted at October 9, 2005 9:03 PM

If only he'd been a Mortal Kombat fan..

I mean, Johnny Cage? It's perfect!

Comment from: quiller posted at October 10, 2005 12:12 AM

I knew a guy in high school with the last name of Power, and yep, his first name was Will.

I always figured if I wanted a daughter who would grow up to hate me, I'd name her Buttercup, after the character in the Princess Bride.

Comment from: Dave Menendez posted at October 10, 2005 1:23 AM

Snapping back to reality, the names which bother me the most are the ones which are places. I know a little girl named Madison. Madison! Let's name a girl after a city named after a male politician, that's a great idea!

The theory I heard is that the name Madison comes from Spash, which came out in 1984. If you look at the historical data, it pretty much comes out of nowhere in the 1980s (ranked 538 that decade, 29th in the 1990s, and 3rd now; as a boy's name, Madison was ranked 374th in the 1880s, but had dropped out of the top 1000 by the 1930s).

Comment from: miyaa posted at October 10, 2005 2:18 AM

I'm guessing your name is really spelled: ๊rin? (What do they call ๊ anyway?)

Comment from: Alun Clewe posted at October 10, 2005 2:54 AM

What do they call ๊ anyway?

Well, I'm sure it has other names in other contexts--it probably has a different name in Danish or Norwegian, for example--but the usual English word for it is "ash".

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at October 10, 2005 3:01 AM

Well, I'm sure it has other names in other contexts--it probably has a different name in Danish or Norwegian, for example--but the usual English word for it is "ash".

Sadly, we have already set a moratorium on the name Ash. I realize that's not Aerin's actual name, but still.

Comment from: Alun Clewe posted at October 10, 2005 3:12 AM

Well, yeah, but as phrased that moratorium applies to webcomic characters, not typographical characters. (And the only webcomic I can think of offhand in which typographical characters are likely to become characters in the comic is Triangle and Robert--though I haven't looked at that comic now in years, so I can't say for sure whether or not any a-e ligatures have appeared in it.)

Comment from: Tice with a J posted at October 10, 2005 3:37 AM

Unusual names aren't so bad. My own name is Matthijs . I just go by Tice (hence my little title, Tice with a J). Nicknames are important if you have unusual names. Tice is easy to spell (in spite of this fact, people persist in spelling it with a 'y').

Kal-El isn't so bad if no one knows what Kal-El actually is, which is probably a fair number of people. He'll get teased, but big deal. They all do.

Comment from: larksilver posted at October 10, 2005 9:28 AM

Oh, my. Somehow I missed the post about the Ash moratorium the first time. Wow, I didn't know it was possible for Penny Arcade and PvP to be merged that way. It's ... disturbing.

Quiller: naming your child Buttercup should be a reason to have CPS come visit your house, at the very least.

I don't think there's anything wrong with namin' yer kid after a place... after all, a great many place names were so labeled after a person. What I think is cruel is giving your kid a car name, or (as I've recently seen) something like "Cola" - that's right, "Cola."... eeeeeevil.

I just noticed something here. All the ranting about names that's gone on in here has carefully circumnavigated around the whole "named after a day" thing. I like names like Wednesday, Tuesday, and Saturday.. but when's the last time you saw a kid named "Sunday?" or (worse) "Monday?" Just an odd thing of note.

Aerin: sometimes creative spellings aren't really intended to be. I've seen Aerin/Aaron/Aren/Erin/Aron and Allan/Allen/Alan... some of those name choices are based on where the child's family came from, and some of it is that people just can't spell. My own niece, Stephanie, was very nearly Stefany because her parents can't spell for squat; if one of my other sisters had not intervened, the poor kid would have to explain how to spell it all the darn time, and could never have those personalized stuff like pencils, etc. What's the point in giving your kid a boring name if they can't have a necklace with their name on it?

Comment from: jpcardier posted at October 10, 2005 1:59 PM

Well, considering that my daughter is named Athena, I really don't have much room to squawk.....

Comment from: larksilver posted at October 10, 2005 2:12 PM

I had a family of kids in my Sunday School class who were: Adonis, Nike, and Artemis. I swear. The really sad thing is that their mother didn't know where the names came from, other than they were "Something Greek." sheeesh.

Comment from: Alun Clewe posted at October 10, 2005 6:34 PM

but when's the last time you saw a kid named "Sunday?"

When my sister was in high school (if I'm remembering the chronology correctly) she had a friend named Sunday.

I have never heard of anyone being named "Tuesday" or "Saturday", though...for that matter, before Ms. White's appearance here, I'd never heard of anyone named "Wednesday". (Well, except the kid in the Addams family.)

Comment from: Darth Paradox posted at October 10, 2005 7:11 PM

I used to think that if I had twin girls, I'd name them Melody and Harmony. Then I realized how thorougly they'd hate me. There's always middle names, though...

See, I'd worry about Harmony always feeling like she's playing second fiddle to her sister.

Comment from: larksilver posted at October 10, 2005 8:26 PM

Wouldn't you be worried that your little divas would find their relationship out of tune?

When they were naughty, would you tell them to go to their rooms and compose themselves?

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at October 10, 2005 8:38 PM

I have never heard of anyone being named "Tuesday"

I have. There was a movie star named Tuesday Weld. But I guess that was back when it was uphill both ways to school.

Comment from: Wednesday White posted at October 10, 2005 11:47 PM

Funny. In the 4,973 conversations I've had on this topic in recent years, most people have said to me, "you know, I've heard of plenty of Tuesdays, and a bunch of Fridays, but never a Wednesday!"

Then I asked them to stop bringing it up.

Comment from: larksilver posted at October 11, 2005 1:23 AM

I've known a couple of Wednesdays, actually. Thus: exotic, but not bizarre. Besides, it's a pretty name, although I'll wager you hated learning to spell it as a young child.

Paul: Well, that's the only Tuesday I've ever heard of. I don't even know (although a quick glance at imdb will probably tell me) what she starred in. Ah, well.

Comment from: larksilver posted at October 11, 2005 9:18 AM

But then, maybe I shouldn't have brought it up. heheh I almost didn't, but it's a cool name, so.. well, I did.

Comment from: gwalla posted at October 13, 2005 1:34 AM

Let's not overlook OrangeJello and LemonJello (accent on the second syllable for both)

Comment from: larksilver posted at October 13, 2005 2:25 PM

Or crappy names like "Boy" and "Female."

Comment from: Matt Sweeney posted at October 13, 2005 2:32 PM

The Boy!

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