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Eric: I promise to do this just once a year.

On August 20, 2004, things were in a state of flux for me.

That should be somewhat obvious, right? I mean, last year was a year of unmitigated change for me. In March of 2004 I had my gastric bypass, which included over three weeks of recovery, followed by a month or so where I had to ask friends over to pick boxes up off the floor for me, because I was on severe restriction for lifting things, lest I herniate the incision. The incision today doesn't seem to be in any danger of herniating -- it is a long, pink thing on my stomach that makes it look like I was knifed in a well choreographed scene from West Side Story.

In May of 2004, I agreed to leave my position of 6 years and accept a different one at the same school. I was moving away from Management, and back deeper into technology. In part, I hoped to preserve my sanity. The job I had before was miserable, with stress no human being could endure, from sources political and through lack of crucial support in necessary areas. More than once, while I had it, I considered suicide. But I never did get around to that.

The new job, systems administration and IT, had all the bits I liked from the old job without the miseries, and I found my moods vastly improving. I also found that I had more time -- I wasn't bringing my job home with me so often. I wasn't stressing. The job wasn't filling every minute of the day. And as a result, I had a yen to write more.

Writing is what I do. It's how I keep on an even keel. At those low points I mentioned above? I could barely write. The words wouldn't come. It wasn't a block -- it was a lack of willingness to write. When I could work up the gumption, I'd play City of Heroes but that was about it. Now, freed from the pressure cooker, I found my spirits rising, my natural optimism flowing... things seemed... well, okay. And so I started writing.

Primarily, I worked on a rather ambitious novel I'd been working on for years, called Theftworld. I still work on it, though it takes exactly the right mindset. I'm not sure when it'll be done, but when it is I suspect it'll be the novel that builds my reputation in SF. But I have a love of the essay form. When I had my Online Journal, it swiftly became a series of essays about life and about me. My Livejournal, on the other hand, had swiftly become a long series of memes and... well, highlights of webcomics. "Look!" I would say. "This is a funny picture of a dog! Laugh at the funny picture of a dog!"

So... it occurred to me that I had a Livejournal, which meant I had a venue for serious essay writing. But it was being cluttered with the detritus of the web. I mean, honestly, Memes? And while webcomics weren't detritus, the stuff I was writing wasn't exactly in depth criticism. I had no idea I had that level of criticism in me.

So. I decided on three courses of action. 1) I would reactivate my online journal, this time using Movable Type as an engine (in the old days, everything was uploaded by hand. I don't recommend this). In this journal, I would write essays of substance. 2) I would have my Livejournal, where I would keep the day to day stuff of my life, of interest only to me and a few of my friends. 3) I would have a third blog -- one devoted to the crap I found on the web and the amusing pictures of dogs I found. The least significant of the three, if you will.

That one I originally was going to call 'stripping-the-web.com,' off the old Bloom County 'stripper' pun. At the moment I was getting ready to register the site, however, I thought "well, why not try websnark. It's certainly been taken, but who knows? What the Hell?"

It hadn't been taken. So here we are.

The Mission Statement, posted August 20, 2004

Do we really need another commentary blog on the web? I mean, honestly. How many of these are we supposed to accept, willy nilly? And who actually says willy-nilly in casual conversation? Or is that getting off the subject.

Why are we here?

It's more than the core of Western Philosophy going back to the Greeks as refined through Augustine and briefly sidetracked through the Asharites who figured we can't know the answer anyway so why ask the question? It's a justification for effort: the effort I put into creating websnark.com, and the effort you put into reading it.

Well, I've always been snarky and opinionated. My tribal totem is the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons (though a friend always claimed my avatar should be the Sea Captain. I don't know why. He also thought I was most like Nate from Overboard. I'm generally polite, though. An outlet where the ground rules state explicitly I'm being an opinionated bastard can only be a good thing for my psyche.

And besides, like a lot of websurfers ("surf" the "web." Is that hopelessly 90's or what? Should we have an updated phrase for the 21st century? Like "powerslacking?") I consume an absurd amount of web content every day. I read over sixty comic strips on the web. I read news sites and commentary sites and livejournals and weblogs. We live in an era where your office computer and your living room television have exactly the same capacity to entertain, with only differences in production values.

Looking back over my Livejournal for the past couple of years, I realize the ratio of content (defined as me bitching about my life, which is what you do in a Livejournal. It's in the terms of service) to "hey, look at this funny picture of a drawn dog" posts is pretty lame.

So. Why not put the dog pictures into their own shiny website, complete with automated systems for posting and automated comment systems so you, the reader, can agree that the picture of the drawn dog is in fact funny.

That kind of answers why I'm here and what I'm doing. But it doesn't really get into why you're here and what you're doing.

I have no answer for that. I mean, I don't think you're my mom, who wouldn't be reading this garbage anyway.

Whatever. Thanks for coming.

So. 365 days of writing. Well, I didn't post on every single day (though I went a very long time when I did), and after Wednesday came on board a good chunk of the writing is hers, but still. Standing from the vantage point of a year following, I'm able to look at the whole.

Let's talk statistics. This specific post is the eight hundred and eighty-eighth post on Websnark. The previous eight hundred and eighty seven posts have accrued nine thousand, seven hundred and thirty six comments. Just looking at text without any graphics at all, the writing for Websnark comes to eight point five megabytes. That constitutes one million, four hundred and ninty-six thousand, six hundred and forty-one words, not counting the words in this particular snark. So, call it one point five million words. Broken into standard typewritten pages, that becomes roughly five thousand, nine hundred and eighty seven pages of writing. Or, an average of about 16 and a half pages a day.

Wow. Not bad for the blog I wasn't going to actually care about, huh?

The thing is, I found the format fascinating, right from the get go. I was cheerful about it, and interested in it... and there wasn't much to say about my life in the livejournal and I had no "essays of substance" to put into the journal, and after a little while I discovered that I was writing essays of substance. They were just happening over here.

My expectations for Websnark were, at best, modest. I thought some of my friends would read it. Maybe my father. I figured I'd mention it in a couple of places, and maybe I'd get some links out of the deal.

The most people who ever showed up in one day? 213,000 people (by Unique IP numbers). That was from a Penny Arcade link. On average, we vary between 30 and 54 thousand folks these days. Links from the major sites always spike those numbers up. On the whole, the readership is stable, otherwise. Possibly trending downward. I've maintained for a while that we've found the audience we're going to find, and readership is only going to decline from here.

The only advertising I've ever done for Websnark is on Comixpedia, and that was because it was part of my compensation package for writing a column for them. When Gossamer Commons came out, I switched my banner ads for that.

The entire population of my home town could be reading Websnark, stop reading tomorrow, and I would never even notice the difference.

Where did everybody come from? I get asked that. "How'd you build your audience?"

Fuck if I know.

I know the two points it started from, however. The two links that were the difference between keeping a readership in the two figures and hitting five figures as a matter of course, a year later.

The first is Scott Kurtz. When I posted one of the dumber things I've ever done -- the PvP Update Pool (based on the premise that someone who made sure there was a comic strip up each and every day should also... I dunno, do it by a stupid timeclock or something), my friend Mason sent the link to Scott Kurtz. He was amused -- thank Christ -- and posted it to his forum. I actually said "yes, it's just a joke. Heh. Um... heh," there in the forum. The forum regulars regarded me as... well, like a nine year old kid who just shouted "Doodie" in church, expecting everyone to laugh.

However, Kurtz apparently took the time to read more stuff. And he happened to read, a couple of days later, the snark that was probably the best one I had done to that point -- a comparison of Miranda and Jade from PvP, done on August 26, less than one week into the life of Websnark.

This particular snark was also significant because it referenced Geek Women -- Your Little Standards Compliant Fantasy, which was an excellent Comixpedia article. One that probably informed the development of what Websnark turned into as much as anything.

That essay's writer? One Wednesday White. Who to my knowledge first became aware of Websnark because of that link.

Scott Kurtz read that particular snark... in the same day he got savaged (unfairly, in my opinion) in a book review that was less about the quality of Kurtz's compilation and more about how pissed the reviewer was that Kurtz poked fun at alternative comics in it. So he was feeling pretty low, and here was an essay that not only seemed to like PvP, but also put some thought into it. It addressed characterization issues and the like. It... well, treated the medium with a certain amount of respect.

That made Kurtz feel better in a day when he was feeling pretty bad.

So he linked to it. On his front page. Just briefly. "Check out Websnark's detailed deconstruction of PvP and the character development of Miranda and Jade." (The literary geek in me wishes to point out it's actually a Compare-and-Contrast essay with a little Mythopoetic criticism thrown in for good measure, not any sort of deconstructionism. But no one but me cares about that.)

And thousands upon thousands of people followed that link.

It's safe to say that that moment changed my life.

From PvP's Blog, posted October 12, 2004. Not the same thing I mentioned above. But it made me feel good so I want to reprint it here. Used without permission, so Kurtz gets to beat me up if he wants.

Websnark gets me.Everytime I get a high concept for the strip, I am always fearful that it will be lost on my audience. It's difficult sometimes because I have those pure moments, when all the pistons are firing and I really come up with something I feel to be inspired...then people email me because they don't get it.

But websnark gets me. His recent breakdown of Miranda was dead on the mark, and now he's exposed the thin veil covering my villain, Max Powers.

If you've ever wondered "Why does everyone hate Max? What did he ever do to the PvP gang?" You need to read websnark's latest article.

Don't think it's a Kurtz love-fest over there, however. He's critical of me where appropriate. I always say that I'm not as cool, nor as much of an ass as those on the net would indicate I am. Websnark has me nailed.

The other link that really changed Websnark -- and changed my own views about it -- didn't bring the same avalanche of short term readers that Scott Kurtz's did. However, it had at least as profound an impact on the site, and what Websnark is today. It certainly shaped what I did with the site. And it certainly blew my mind.

It came from Lore Sj˝berg, the brilliant mind behind the Book of Ratings, the Slumbering Lungfish, Lore Brand Comics and one half of the now defunct but still hysterical Brunching Shuttlecocks. Sj˝berg is one of those people you just end up instantly respecting, because he's so naturally, effortlessly funny. And he attracts a highly discriminating, highly amused crowd.

His link to me included some of the nicest things anyone has ever said about me. I'll quote some of them here, because... well, it's a retrospective. That's what we do. That's what we're supposed to do.

One thing I like about Eric Burns is that he's firm with his criticisms, but he's enthusiastic with his praises. The Web as a whole came of age in the Ironic Nineties, and it still retains a lot of that "must be critical to be cool" aura. With a name like "Websnark," you'd expect endless essays on how this comic or that just feeds pabulum to the masses and the only comic worth reading is something in a corner of Keenspace that nobody else likes -- or at least it used to be worth reading, back before the author sold out.

But no, instead of a bitchy aesthete, Burns comes across as a tough-but-fair coach or English teacher, the sort you see in TV movies. When you cross him, he's livid, but he's not just being livid to score cool points. He's livid because he cares, and when a comic does something right, you can tell how thrilled he is to be here, now, at this point in history, when strip comics are moving into new territory.

That means a lot to me. (And wasn't the first comment to make me wonder if calling this blog 'websnark' was perhaps not a good idea, since I don't in fact tend to be snide. More than one person has avoided the site because they've assumed it would be chock full of negativity.) Since reading that, I've striven -- not always successfully -- to live up to it, as well. I want to be the tough-but-fair English teacher, thrilled when someone does something great, but dedicated to the idea that we all can do our best, damn it.

It's not up to me to say whether or not I've succeeded in that, by the way. Nor is that necessarily what Wednesday seeks to do with her part of this whole affair. But it's in the back of my head when I'm snarking something. So take that for what it's worth.

When Sj˝berg linked me, it didn't cause an avalanche of readers to come to my site. However, it did cause two discrete groups of readers to take notice. One was a certain kind of cartoonist -- Lore Sj˝berg is one of those folks that webcartoonists read for the same reason the rest of us read... well, webcomics. And that (along with the Kurtz link) got webcartoonists talking about Websnark, linking to Websnark, and visiting Websnark.

The other thing Sj˝berg attracted to the site -- more than Kurtz's link did -- was the kind of people who commented on snarks. Who did so intelligently and humorously and with a strong critical facility. The kind of folks more than willing to call bullshit on me, but do so in a way that made me think "wait -- this is bullshit.'

In short... Kurtz gave me an initial audience. Sj˝berg gave me an initial community.

And the commenters on Websnark full on rock. There's a dedicated cadre of folks who clearly love the site, love what Weds and I do, but never feel like they have to agree with us just to agree with us. No, they disagree. They tear into us. They make fun of us where necessary. But they do it intelligently. They do it creatively. They do it well. I love them all. I really do. If you ever wonder how to absolutely make Weds's or my day? Comment on something we wrote. It blows our tiny little minds.

The initial audience and community that formed out of PvP and Slumbering Lungfish's links had one distinguishing characteristic, by the by. There were some fans of webcomics who stayed around. There were some fans of the writing who stayed around. But a surprisingly large number of webcartoonists started regularly reading. This surprised me. This surprised me a lot. And it made me realize that there weren't that many people out there doing what I was doing -- offering up critiques of the medium and discussions of the individual executions.

I had my lexicon -- which always was more based on me liking to use metaphors than anything else. Cerebus Syndrome. First and Ten. You Had Me and You Lost Me. And so on, and so forth. And I started seeing those references elsewhere. And more links began showing up. More people started pointing us out. More people started talking about Websnark. Joey Manley said, and I quote, "Websnark.com is the talk of webcomicsland right now. Everybody who╠s anybody (yes, I╠m an elitist Ď and so are you, actually) is reading it." Things began to really catch on fast. Readership began to swell.

And... and this was a new thing for me... people started knowing my name. I go to cons, and people show up to see me. I had a beautiful, beautiful girl -- an artist, as it turns out -- go to a panel I was part of at Arisia, learn it was the Websnark guy, and squeal with joy.

Squeal with joy.

If you think I was unused to beautiful women squealing when they saw me before this point, you're absolutely right. I had another girl at that con -- also beautiful -- ask me excitedly if I could say hi to her sister in Websnark. So, you know, I did. When I went to the Dumbrella Meet and Greet, Phillip Karlsson recognized me before I recognized him. Phillip Karlsson, of Goats, knew who I was. So did Jon Rosenberg.

That still gets me star struck, by the way. I try not to name drop, but this is an anniversary, so let me throw out some of the people I've had contact with -- in some cases gotten to know, in other cases just gotten comments or messages from, and everything in between -- over the past year: Aeire, John Allison, Darren Bleuel, T Campbell, Maritza Campos, Mitch Clem, Kelly J. Cooper, D.J. Coffman, Chris Crosby, Alexander Danner, Greg Dean, Johanna Draper Carlson, Kaja Foglio, Paul Gadzikowski, Shaenon Garrity, William George, Ghastly, Amber "Glych" Greenlee, Casey Grimm, Brad J. Guigar, Lea Hernandez, Greg Holkan, Steve Jackson (who knew of me before then, but still. Dude), Jeph Jacques, Jerry Holkins, Phillip Karlsson, Dave Kellett, Mike Krahulik, Scott Kurtz, Josh Lesnick, Joey Manley, Scott McCloud, Mckenzee, Randy Milholland (who knew of me before then, thanks to Superguy, but still), Eric Milliken, Meghann Quinn, Jon Rosenberg, Jeffrey Rowland, Brandon Sonderegger, Paul Southworth, Tom Spurgeon, R. Stevens, Bob Stevenson, Kristofer Straub, Paul Taylor, Ping Teo, Steve Troop, John Troutman, Ursula Vernon, Andy Weir, David Willis, Christopher B. Wright, and everyone else who I should have namedropped up there but forgot -- it's not you, it's me.

I should point out, not all the people in that list like Websnark or like me. That isn't a list of endorsements by them. That's a list of the names who, when I look at, make me say "holy Fuck, [X] has heard of me?"

Some of the folks up there, I've gotten privileged to know better than others. DJ Coffman and I have had some spirited e-mail exchanges. The same with William G and I. I've spoken and written back and forth several times with Joey Manley (and I pay him to host Gossamer Commons, and very likely will be moving Websnark itself to his servers in the next year, for financial reasons and because I like him). I've gotten to serve on panels with and learn to really appreciate Alexander Danner and Kelly J. Cooper (the latter I've had some time to socialize with). I've had dinner several times with Randy Milholland. I've had extended e-mail and other conversations with Shaenon Garrity -- who I also got to tromp all over big chunks of San Francisco with, and who gave me some of the coolest things I've ever been given. I've been able to Skype-talk with Scott Kurtz several times -- in fact, when he was being interviewed for Digital Strips, he actually thought to yank me into it. I mean, wow. And so on, and so forth. Yeesh, what a suckup.

But as blown away as I am by the above, you catch yourself looking at the people who haven't linked you, or commented, or acknowledge you. And it's a list that never grows smaller. You get linked by Scott Kurtz, and you think "how come Penny-Arcade never linked me?" You get linked by Penny-Arcade, and think "why hasn't Scott McCloud ever linked me?" You get linked by Scott McCloud, and you wonder about Boing Boing. Or Mark Evanier. Or Peter David. Or Wil Wheaton. Or Slashdot. Or CNN. Or the BBC. Or the Presidential State of the Union. And what's a guy got to do to get Pete Abrams to notice him, anyway?!?!

It's unending. It's a treadmill. It's a mug's game. In the end, you have to accept -- as impossible as it is -- that not everyone's going to notice you. And you have to get to the point where you no longer care. It's wild and fantastic when someone you know and respect says something -- agreeing or disagreeing -- with something you wrote. You have to take that for the compliment it is and move on, and not worry about the people who don't acknowledge you.

Besides, as wild as all of the above is... it's nothing compared to the commenters.

God, so many commenters. I'd try to list all of the ones that mean so much to me, who've said or acknowledged or disagreed or made this place what it is. But it's so easy to forget people. There have been hundreds of commenters. How do I avoid forgetting someone basic? Start throwing names out (Kate Sith, Shadowydreamer, Larksilver, Spatchcock, gwalla) and you start remembering all the ones you've forgotten (whoa, wait -- what about PatMan, Lucastd, Darkstar and miyaa? Dude! You forgot SeanH! And JackSlack! You forgot Robert Hutchinson! Jesus -- you forgot John Bankert! You slept on his floor for a summer, you moron! And Frank, Lisa, Seanna, Becki and Karen! And Mason! And what about all the folks who were heavy commenters in the beginning, but moved on? Huh? Centurion13, say! What about Flit? Flit hasn't commented for a while, but-- yeesh, man, where's EDG? Where's Robotech_Master? Where's Dave Van Domelen? Or Snowspinner, or TRPeal! Or Forsytheferret, or or or or... Yeeesh.)

You get the point -- and if I didn't mention you and you think I should have? That's because I should have. There's just so many names. So many people. And it's that foundation that's built this whole thing up.

There's been low points. Bad points. Missteps. Mistakes. Drama. (Oh Christ, has there been drama.) There have been times I've been ready to close the site down, and times when I've kept the right attitude. But we've also made a difference. We've had influence. We've had amazing things happen.

It's why Wednesday White is here. We got to be friends, and she offered to post something for me once, and from there I gave her the keys. And she's an equal partner in this now. I don't just up and do things without bouncing them off her. She keeps me level. And she helps me deal with Internet Fame, which is still an odd thing to me. (Wednesday -- who will kill me for bringing this up -- knows from Internet fame. When the Web was still a newborn babe, struggling to find itself, and the King of the Online World was Usenet, Wednesday actually had Usenet groups devoted to her fandom. When I mentioned her to my old guard friends and cohorts, they all knew who she was, knew her from way back, knew she rocked. Which of course she does.)

And all of this got me a Webcomic. Greg Holkan -- whose Nemesis is fantastic, came on board with me to help launch and create Gossamer Commons. And we've really hit a stride in chapter two. The press on it's been fantastic. The pacing has ramped up. Life is good. Really, really good.

And, more to the point, Websnark helped spawn the dialogue.

The dialogue is all important in art. It's criticism -- in the truest sense of the word. The understanding and analysis of what is there. The placing of art within the cosm of its fellows. The distillation and discovery of new truths from interpretation. I'm not going to claim to be the first webcomics critic, nor anywhere near the best, but through luck and timing I managed to become one of the better known. It got me two gigs that mean the world to me -- writing for Comixpedia, and contributing to the Webcomics Examiner -- and it's spawned others trying to do the same thing. Tangents, by Robert Howard. I'm Just Saying, by Phil Khan. Journey Into History (and the HB Comic Blog) by Bob Stevenson. Webcomic Finds by Ping Teo. The Digital Strips Blog and Podcast, by Zampson and Daku. And many, many others.

I'm not saying I'm the reason those guys are doing what they're doing. I'm not saying Websnark by Burns and White was necessary for all those other voices. But we clearly had an impact. We clearly caused some folks to read what we wrote and say "wait a second -- I can do that!" And that's monumental. That's massive. That is good for comics in general. That is good for webcomics in particular. The dialogue improves everything. And if my making this blog a year ago helped that... well, that's about as fine a thing as I could hope for.

There's so much else to talk about. So much more to say. So much more to hope for. And there's the future. I don't expect our readership to grow, but I also think we're going to be around for a good long time. I've gone from a "I can't see why I'd ever sell merchandise" position to actively selling tee shirts (and the Snarky shirt should be up for sale tomorrow, just like the Strunk and White shirts should be in from the printer next week, in time to be shipped out to all the good people of the land.)

Oh, that reminds me -- I haven't talked about Snarky -- Ursula Vernon's little Snarkasaurus, created when I asked for a self-caricature for my Comixpedia column (Ursula figured she hadn't seen me, so I might be a comic-gnawing dinosaur), which became the mascot for the site. Or the Snarkoleptics -- created by Mckenzee after he coined the term to convince me I actually had a fandom. However, the Snarkoleptics have grown and flourished as a more general Webcomics community, devoted more to the dialogue than to me. And that's astoundingly cool.

There's so much I haven't talked about. So many bits of evolution, so many epiphanies I've had over the past year. I haven't discussed You Had Me, and You Lost Me, and the very different reactions that Fred Gallagher, Jeff Darlington and David Willis had to those essays. I haven't talked about the Shortbreads. Or the astounding feeling I got when I saw one quoted in a Diamond solicitation. Or the overall sense of failure I took away from them.

I haven't talked about so much that there remains to talk about. Even though I want to. There's too much to distill. Too much to quote. Too many people to thank. I haven't talked about my family's take, or how stunned I was when my sister started reading Websnark and my father started reading Gossamer Commons. I haven't talked nearly enough about Wednesday.



It's been a phenomenal, exciting, frightening, wonderful year. I haven't got the words to express my thanks to everyone, to all of you reading this. I'm astounded at how far we've come. I'm astounded at how big this became. I'm astounded that you guys haven't figured out I'm a hack from New Hampshire with a big mouth.

But I'm also proud. I'm so very, very proud.

Thanks, everyone.

And in case you're wondering? This is post 888. It is 5,205 words long. Which means our collective word count, as of the moment I hit "submit," will be 1,501,846. In one year.


Posted by Eric Burns-White at August 20, 2005 11:24 AM


Comment from: inkbrush posted at August 20, 2005 4:05 PM

Congratulations, amigo. It's hard to match the feelings inspired by hard work over a long period. Hoo-ray for longitudinal self-examination!

Greg H

Comment from: Plaid Phantom posted at August 20, 2005 4:22 PM

I am entirely hurt that I was not mentioned at all in this essay. I shall now decry your name in any outlet which may become available to me. C'mon, who's your music man? (Okay, so that was more GC, but nyah.)

Seriously, good job, man. I honestly do think you were what inspired me to get started on putting something on the web. I seriously need to get better about updating it, but that's a whole 'nother transmutated beast. (Sorry...spent the night reading all of El Goonish Shive)

Anyway, keep it up. I need something to read. ;)

Comment from: Kristofer Straub posted at August 20, 2005 4:24 PM

Great read. Your successes are well-deserved.

Comment from: chaos cricket posted at August 20, 2005 4:28 PM

I remember those links from Scott Kurtz. Those're actually what got me reading this thing...well, those, and the hearty endorsement of Ping Teo, but that's 'cause I trust Ping's judgment.

Congrats on a fantastic year!

Comment from: Zaq posted at August 20, 2005 4:34 PM

Sure, you beat me to the punch, but I'd like to reiterate the best comment I can offer here...


Comment from: Daemonic posted at August 20, 2005 4:49 PM

All I can say is keep writing, and we'll all keep coming back. Your writing is always intriguing and well thought out. I've been a fan since the early days (that day that Kurtz linked to WebSnark... yeah, I was one of those first chumps to come over... and stay to enjoy the show).

Many kudos to you and to many more years of WebSnark!


Comment from: Kate Sith posted at August 20, 2005 4:49 PM

Yai! First name off the top of your head! ^_^

I came in from PvP, around the second Kurtz link. I'm not actually much of a blog-reader (well, beyond Livejournals), but for some reason this stuck. I'm pretty sure my reading list has more than doubled because of this (I think I peak at around 60-70 on a given day (Friday, cos most things update then)).

And dude, beyond expanding my awareness of what's out there, you helped rekindle my interest in creating comics again. And I found out about WCN, and so on and so forth, and it's generally just been really awesome. I'd try to be more eloquent or something, but my brain is fried from bagel-slinging all day.

Also, Weds is just totally awesome and is high up there on my list of 'people I could totally hang out with (aside from geography and my tendency to be a total spaz)'. Because, dude. Sailor Moon. And the Chick tracts (I read all of them over the course of a week, and it's all her fault). She also has me using 'em' tags now. So there's that.

I'm also pretty sure I didn't engage in such a liberal usage of the word "dude" since high school.

But...yanno... dude.

Keep being awesome for another year. More than that, in fact. I COMMAND IT.

Comment from: Phalanx posted at August 20, 2005 4:59 PM

*grin* One year of Websnark? Times sure does fly.

One little correction though, Webcomic Finds actually started on August 12th 2004 , which means technically, I beat you to the draw by 10 days ;)

Since I predate you I guess I really can't be considered one of your spawned blogs! But if I had to be spawned from somewhere, I'd say I spawned from Comixpedia and Dalton Wemble.

But thanks all the same. And I am glad to have been with Websnark from the beginning! And let's hope for another year of Websnark!

Also... damn, you just made me realise I forgot my own blog's anniversary! *oops*

Comment from: Tangent posted at August 20, 2005 5:00 PM

*blinks in surprise*

Wow. Thanks for the comment. :)

Just an FYI to people trying to follow the link... I'm afraid the Keenspace account is FUBAR, and thus has been not updating. I'm almost finished with my move over to Panel2Panel, and Tangents will be going live probably in a couple of days.

The new (and easier-to-type) URL is http://www.tangents.us

And Eric? You rock. :) You're the Sluggy Freelance of the reviewers. ;)

Robert A. Howard, Tangents Webcomic Reviews


Comment from: UrsulaV posted at August 20, 2005 5:26 PM

Woo! Congrats! Time to carve a notch in Snarky's recliner, or however time should be marked!

Comment from: PatMan posted at August 20, 2005 5:27 PM

I've been reading since the main page PVP link. That was early enough to go back and read the ones I had missed. :)

And I should be in the artists section darnit! I have a comic now! For reals this time. :P

And for goodness's sake, the name is

Pat Myers

It scares me that tens of thousands of people are reading every stupid thing we say on here. Good thing most of them don't read the names! ;)

Comment from: PatMan posted at August 20, 2005 5:28 PM

Oh, and um...

Wowzers. I got mentioned when you-know who got skipped. o.O

Comment from: djcoffman posted at August 20, 2005 5:29 PM

Let me start by saying, I'm sorry for spoiling Harry Potter in your comments section. :)

Websnark has been a DAILY stop for me. Which is rare. When I bored, I hit the "w" button and it take s me here to see what you're saying. Sometimes, it's not even WHAT you're saying, as how you're actually saying it. Does that make sense? That would explain why I encourages more writing NOT about comics when you didn't feel like it. Writers write. Right?

Eric, will you come over and read me a bedtime story? Hah....

Anyway, keep this up man. Look at all that's happened in a year! Who knows where another year will take you.

Fucking Internet.

Comment from: Rachi posted at August 20, 2005 5:29 PM

I was first introduced to the world of webcomics by someone I know with UserFriendly and MacHall. Shortly after I was told about PvP, which is how I found Websnark.

Websnark has then led me to a lot of other webcomics: S*P, Queen of Wands, Penny and Aggie, Pointless, A Softer World, Questionable Content, Sinister Bedfellows, Diesel Sweeties and On The Playground.

It's hard to believe that it's only been a year. It feels like Websnark has been around for a lot longer because it's been so influencial in what I read.

Thanks and congradulations.

Comment from: Egarwaen posted at August 20, 2005 5:35 PM

Where did everybody come from? I get asked that. "How'd you build your audience?"

I think the answer to that one's simple. You wrote good, insightful stuff. And you kept at it.

I found your blog thanks to a friend of mine who's also a big webcomic fan - I think the link was passed on in the context of a discussion of Walky or Megatokyo or maybe even Narbonic - I don't remember. I read it irregularly for a while, then kept reading when I saw that you seem to read things the same way I do (looking at overarching structure and what the author's trying to do instead of just the story itself, though you're much better at it than I am), and that you were always linking to cool webcomics.

Actually, thinking about it, I think I kept reading after Wednesday's I Will Devour You, Sailor Moon post, and some of your posts about writing.

The drama aggro is just an added bonus. ;)

Comment from: quiller posted at August 20, 2005 5:40 PM

Happy Anniversary Websnark!

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I got here from the PVP link, though I also recall a link from Questionable Content, so I'm not sure at what point I went from glancing at it to essay diving. In any case, I think it really is the combination of intelligent essays and intelligent comments on those essays that keeps me coming back. I admit the fan voice in me sometimes does an "Oh my god I'm posting in the same commentary section as Steve Jackson, or Kaja Foglio", but it is more like this is a community of webcomic people, and I'm mingling with them just on the virtue of being opinionated.

In any case, thanks to Eric and Wednesday for doing their things. You deserve all the success you have had.

Comment from: Hunter_McEvoy posted at August 20, 2005 5:43 PM

I was damn surprised when I realised what this post was about, because it's kind of an anniversary for me as well. Round about this time last year, I got a job with the Civil Service after spending a year and a half post-University working at a book shop (good job, awful, awful pay). I loathe my work, but I figure most people do, unfortunately. In the first few weeks, I did a lot of goofing off, scouring the internet for reading material. A mate sent me a link to "Get Your War On", and I realised there were bound to be at least some other comic strips out there.

Here's an interesting fact- there's no beginner's guide to webcomics. Or rather, I never found one. About a year ago, I stumbled into a whole community I knew nothing at all about. I'd never heard of Penny Arcade, Scary Go Round, PVP, none of it. And it all represented a missed opportunity - back in '98, right after school, I came this close to publishing a comic strip on the web. But life (well, university) got in the way, and I didn't.

Google somehow led me to Websnark, if not in its first week then pretty close to it. It seemed like a good place to start, even if it mostly talked about things I didn't know anything about. And pardon me for saying this, at first I wasn't keen on the writing style. But I kept coming back, until it became part of my routine, one of the first things I'd check every morning. And I realised the writing style was exactly what was bringing me back.

So now I know my Narbonics, and Questionable Contents, and Sluggy Freelances, but most significantly, I know about Websnark, and Gossamer Commons. Eric was kind enough to publish the first webcomic strip I'd ever done, during GC's guest week (go on, take a look. Under my pen name, Jac Olwyn). My admiration for his writing led me to spend a chunk of cash on his Child's Play auction. And I've been inspired to try out setting a website up for myself.

So congratulations, Eric, and thanks. You've pretty randomly ended up playing a part in a year that's been significant for me too. If you ever find yourself in South Wales, the drinks are on me.

Comment from: ecrane posted at August 20, 2005 5:45 PM

I won't recount the origin of my own infatuation with Websnark here, having recently done so in a different venue. What I want to say is, Eric, you deserve your success. Your writing is consistently amazing, regardless of the topic at hand. Reading Websnark has not only entertaining, but enriching. Your reviews have brought numerous comics to my attention that I never would have encountered otherwise (thanks for getting me to read Narbonic, by the way- I appreciate it), and that has been exceptional.

But even beyond the webcomics, you have a way of making things interesting. It doesn't matter what you write about. More than that, your thoughts inspire us to think, which is why, I suspect, the level of commentary on the site is usually so high. I most heartily throw my voice in among those calling for another year of Websnark.


Comment from: Robotech_Master posted at August 20, 2005 5:57 PM

Bah, all these newcomers. I discovered Websnark when Eric said something about it, given as I'm a Close Personal Friend of Eric and hang out with him in chat. :) I'm astonished that it's been an entire year. Somehow it just doesn't seem like it's been that long.

And wow, 888 posts in about 365 days...that's an average of over 2 posts per day. Not bad at all.

I don't know that I really have anything witty and insightful to say about it all. I'm so glad that Eric has been able to do this and keep it going for all this time—not to mention impressed as hell, given that my own blog largely languishes. And whenever I come here (and Eric or Weds has written something), I always leave with something new to think about. (And when they haven't written something, I get annoyed. Write faster, damn your eyes! :) And the comments are usually insightful in their own way as well.

Happy anniversary, Eric. Here's hoping Websnark has many, many, many more.

Comment from: Darth Paradox posted at August 20, 2005 6:06 PM


I'm curious if you have some other statistics, though. For example... what's the longest snark to date? This one's certainly up there.

Comment from: Wednesday posted at August 20, 2005 6:11 PM

The word count on this article isn't accurate, because, making a quick sweep to weed out three or four typos, I also discovered that a pronoun had gone missing.

5,206 words in this article, then. I think.

Comment from: ANT Link posted at August 20, 2005 6:15 PM

Ecrane has said it best. You have a way of making everything you write about inherently interesting, to the point where I've come to check this site whenever I have a slow moment in the day. It's practically my home page by now. Like many others, you've basically tripled the size of my webcomics reading list, and in my case you also got me started watching Justice Leage/Justice League Unlimited, which is something I need to thank you for in and of itself. To second everyone else, here's hoping for many more years of snarkery than just the upcoming one.

Comment from: TheNintenGenius posted at August 20, 2005 6:36 PM

I honestly forget how I got here. I know I got linked to it from somewhere, and the very interesting name of the site combined with two out of three You Had Me and You Lost Me articles that I agreed with (never read It's Walky, so I had no idea) was all it took to get me reading this site.

Of course, as I started reading further, I realized just how amazing a writer you are, and you got me not only interested in webcomics all over again (I've suffered severe webcomic burnout at least twice already), but showed me comics I hadn't read but now love (like Questionable Content and Nothing Nice to Say) and got me interested in comics I used to love all over again (most notably PvP). You also actually had a hand in getting me interested enough in writing online again for me to relaunch my website using WordPress as my means of updating (though I'm not linking it as right now it's nothing all that fascinating to read).

Otherwise, I don't have anything to say that hasn't been said already in this thread (and probably will continue to be said even after my post). Just thanks for doing what it is you do best. :)

Also, I'll try to make a habit of commenting more often. I've fallen out of the habit lately.

Comment from: Dave Van Domelen posted at August 20, 2005 6:37 PM

Hey, I'm still around. Just commenting more on the LJ than here lately. :) Not to mention being out of town for a week at the start of the month, and then in my Busy Season at work (doesn't hold a CANDLE to what Eric seems to be going through, but it still cuts down on the posting).

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at August 20, 2005 6:39 PM

I find that the first time I linked to Websnark from my newspost was September 5, 2004. "[H]e writes well and he has many true things to say." Since then I've mentioned Websnark often enough in newsposts and to my family that my mother (who reads my newsposts) recently made reference to "your friend Eric". For whatever contribution I've made toward making you feel recognized as you make us feel, you are heartily welcome. Snark on!

Comment from: PatMan posted at August 20, 2005 6:41 PM

It's practically my home page by now.

Homepage? That's a good idea. I have it in my comic trawls for each day. Which is another thing Eric has given us: the comics trawl. It certainly makes it easier when you can just click on a folder and open up just the comics that update that day. I have MWF, TR, and SS folders. :)

Comment from: Jeff Smith posted at August 20, 2005 6:56 PM

Hey Eric, long time reader, first time poster here.

Not exactly sure what it was, but something about this post compelled me to sign up and say something. I guess it's nothing more than just: Rock on dude, I look forward to another year of Snarkiness.

(PatMan: I've got the same comics trawl folders. And Eric was responsible for my discovering that as well. Crazy. Except I don't have Websnark in the folders -- instead I have the RSS feed in a Live Bookmark on the toolbar.)

Comment from: David Morgan-Mar posted at August 20, 2005 7:17 PM

This is more about me than you, but I felt an incredible resonance with this snark because 20 August 2004 also marked a significant turning point in my life - it was my first day in my current job. The first job I've truly enjoyed and hope to stay in forever. It's not all about comics, sometimes it's about life too. You gotta live to enjoy comics.

Comment from: MasonK posted at August 20, 2005 7:43 PM

Hah. I got mentioned twice. Once in italics.

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 20, 2005 7:56 PM

Notes for next year: mention David Morgan-Mar and Graveyard Greg in the creators "OMGheknowsmyname" section.

You're there in spirit, mates. ;)

(And tons of people in the commenters -- but I knew I was forgetting a ton there. So many astounding insights...)

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 20, 2005 7:57 PM

Jeff Smith?

Any chance you're the Jeff Smith from SFStory?

Comment from: John Bankert posted at August 20, 2005 8:10 PM

OMG!!! I got mentioned on Websnark!!!

squeals in delight

Cheers on year one, Mr. Burns. Tea's on me.

Comment from: Robert Hutchinson posted at August 20, 2005 8:12 PM

Considering that I post a comment about twice a month, I am duly honored to be mentioned. (And right in front of Jesus! I missed his comments, I think.)

I think I visited here from just about every notable website that mentioned in it those first couple of months before I finally bookmarked it and read the archives through. (After PvP and Slumbering Lungfish, I saw it linked in rapid succession on S*P, QC, and SGR.) (No, wait, I think I saw the link from QC while I was going through its archives, since Websnark was what led me to QC in the first place. Huh.)

My only real drama with the site was, well, briefly contemplating running a rasp over my brain during what I like to refer to as the Time of Eric Abusing the Lexicon Constantly. It's all love now, though.

I remembered Wednesday from the trailing end of the twilight of the mixed metaphor of Usenet posting. I always get creeped out when things repeat in some fashion on the Internet, because it's big and all.

Here's to another year--another year of refreshing the TypeKey page six or seven times before it remembers my login information. (Gripe, gripe, gripe ...)

Comment from: Kitty posted at August 20, 2005 8:15 PM

Yayyy, congratulations! Websnark is such a great source of deep thought, quality writing, and honest constructive critique. So refreshing! Please keep it coming!

(And thanks for the linkage! Woo hoo!)

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 20, 2005 8:18 PM

Robert -- you have to read between the comments for Jesus' commentary. (You don't add the 's to Jesus. I don't know why either. But S&W says it.) You have to look for it, and believe in it.

For the record, he's a total Penny Arcade fan. I gather Jesus is quite the Gamer.

(Scary-go-round linked me? Somehow, I managed to never know that...)

Comment from: Egarwaen posted at August 20, 2005 8:42 PM

Speaking of the Lexicon, are we ever going to get an update of that? ;)

Comment from: KevDude posted at August 20, 2005 9:05 PM

I've been here since February, and since I've found your site, my webcomics list has massively expanded beyond belief, and it's still growing.

I also should really comment more, but I never have anything to say.

Comment from: Alexis Christoforides posted at August 20, 2005 9:14 PM

Congratulations, Eric! Here's to another year!

I came here through that second PvP link, and I've been enjoying your writing (here and in Gossamer Commons) ever since. And you've 'introduced' me to at least 4 webcomics I now love and read every day ('introduce' is the wrong word; I was aware of their existence but it was your snarks that convinced me that they were so worth the two-day archive trawl).

So, again, thank you. If I wasn't just a poor international student, I might even buy something from your wares. But for now, you'll have to live with some of us just wasting your bandwidth and telling other people to do the same.

Gotta love the internet!

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 20, 2005 9:19 PM

Oh crap -- forgot Ryan North in the list too! And Kris Overstreet.

Good Christ, I suck.

Comment from: Nate posted at August 20, 2005 9:27 PM


Forsyth here.

I was reading the list of commenters and like "cool, he's thanking commentors, that's classy, and woah. Dude. I got mentioned. Okay, so there's an extra e in my LJ nick, but dude."


I started reading Websnark...I don't remember when, exactly, but it was shortly before the mention in Gaming Guardians. Which made me go look back over old LJ entries to find my first reference to it, was kinda weird looking back over my own old LJ posts. Anyway. So what's it like being one of the "OMGWTF, he knows who I am!" people, Eric?

I just haven't been commenting much because of life and because I haven't manage to think of anything other people haven't said.

Comment from: Weboggle posted at August 20, 2005 9:58 PM

Wow, a year? It feels like I've been reading your work since the start of the Internet. If I could only read one site daily, it would probably be Hitherby Dragons -- but I'd add Websnark if I were allowed two!

Last week I learned that the "White" in Strunk & White is E. B. White, author of Charlotte's Web. Who knew? Well, probably you did, but you know all the good stuff! Anyhoo, congratulations on a great year.

Comment from: Weboggle posted at August 20, 2005 10:02 PM

By the way, TypeKey (or pair.com, or mt-comments.cgi, or whatever the responsible mechanism may be) drops the URL if you are so foolish as to Preview before Posting.

Comment from: Michael Nehora posted at August 20, 2005 10:03 PM

Although Eric's fame and following have naturally been based on the webcomic snarks, I'd also like to say how much I enjoy the slice-of-life posts, such as the recent one about Eric trying to write in a caf╗ filled with screaming Christian campers. And Wednesday's visit, with Aerie screaming at both of them to see Batman Begins (though I hadn't signed up yet, I was screaming right along with her). Good times, man. Good vicarious times. :-)

Eric and Wednesday, you da best! Here's to another year of snarkage!

Comment from: Doc posted at August 20, 2005 10:04 PM

The simple fact that you can take a post that for most people would have run along the lines of 'Shit what a crazy year, thanks guys.' made it run to 5k+ words full of gushing and rambling and (deserved) self-congratulations and not only made it readable but a joy to read.

Well that's going to keep me coming back for a while yet.

Thanks for a great year man, though I still disagree with the first post of yours I read, about the death of the collective detective, but the Max powers one locked me.

Comment from: thelemurgod posted at August 20, 2005 10:22 PM

You've been a great source of information and inspiration to me.

Thanks be to you, sir.

Comment from: Chris Crosby posted at August 20, 2005 10:28 PM

Happy anniversary, Mr. Websnark.

Comment from: Chris Anthony posted at August 20, 2005 10:45 PM

EDG started posting as "Chris Anthony" back when Eric mentioned something I'd written, and said that he weren't sure if it was okay to use my given name in reference to it. I figured I might as well just start using my given name anyway, although recently I've been thinking about switching back.

Just, you know, for the record.

Eric, all I can say is that Websnark is important to me, and I'm glad that you're still happy with it. (Among other things, it inspired me to start my own weblog - which I haven't updated in five months, but such is.) You're doing a really good job, and I look forward to seeing what the future brings.

Comment from: Kail Panille posted at August 20, 2005 11:30 PM

Boy, that was a long post. Those are my favorites.

And anyway, you've earned it. I came here on the Lore link, and have been checking daily since. You've given me QC, and Narbonic, and IWC, and Daily Dinosaur Comics, and Girl Genius, and Medium Large, and Shortpacked, and Two Lumps, and ... and ... etc. Also, the very concept that makes it possible for me to follow all of these.

But more importantly, you've given my countless hours of entertainment. (countless, in this case, means "presumably a large though finite number which I don't have enough data to count")

And a shirt.

So keep it up. And next year, don't try to list people.

Comment from: Robotech_Master posted at August 20, 2005 11:48 PM

Or, if you do try to list people, have someone come up with a script that goes through all the comments, takes the poster's name from each one, and lists each unique name in alphabetical order.

That way nobody is left out, and you get to find out just exactly how many unique commenters you have. :)

Comment from: Tabitha posted at August 20, 2005 11:50 PM

wow, a year of Websnark. Congratulations!

you've definitely earned your fandom. i have no doubt that it will continue to grow.

keep writing and we'll keep reading. it's lovely what you have going on here.

Comment from: Jeff Smith posted at August 21, 2005 12:19 AM

Eric: Alas, no. But I reckon it's not the most uncommon name.

Comment from: Thomas Blight posted at August 21, 2005 12:21 AM

And as a result, I had a yen to write more.

I like your work because it adds to my vocabulary without being unreadable. For instance, I thought this was some kind of wierd idiom until I looked it up on AskOxford.

I've been visiting on and off ever since the second Kurtz link, but I didn't start commenting for a long time; I had to convince myself my opinion was worth something. I was also amazed how right you are; actually being responded to is an awesome feeling.

Comment from: Merus posted at August 21, 2005 12:26 AM

Congratulations, and here's to another year! And to champagne.

I'm curious to know how Fred and Jeff actually reacted to the YHMAYLM, although that would probably resort in drama.

Comment from: kirabug posted at August 21, 2005 12:31 AM

hey, congratulations! i can't remember when i started reading, but i'm so addicted now that you're in my Safari RSS folder and anytime it lights up with a post update number I drop everything to go read... thanks for everything you've taught me (us?) about comics, even when you didn't think you were teaching.

Comment from: FlyingFish posted at August 21, 2005 12:33 AM

I remember reading through the forums of College Roomies From Hell!!! and coming to a thread that linked to this entry. And Maritza herself thought the article was cool. So I read it, and not only did I think it was cool, but I was wondering "why have I never heard of this guy before, given my huge love of webcomics?"

And then I found out this was because you'd been in existance for slightly more than a week at the time. And now my reaction was "Whoa. This guy's going to go FAR." And lo, I was right... Glad I was there to see the first days of all this.

Comment from: kjc posted at August 21, 2005 12:59 AM

Dude. DUDE! I got a typekey account (a few months ago) JUST so I could comment on Websnark when the occasion warranted.

I ended up here because Xerexes kept hyping you on Comixpedia and I came back because you write so well.

In fact, you make me want to be a better writer. Dammit.

Congratulations on a fantastic year and good luck with the next.

Comment from: daveMill posted at August 21, 2005 1:09 AM

Congrats, Eric.

You've been a daily read for me ever since my sitemeter noticed you'd snarked Chocolypse Now.

I don't comment much myself, but I read them all. So congrats on having such a fine stable of commenters. It's amazing how intelligent you all are.

Keep doing what you love, man. And I'll keep reading.

Comment from: Bo Lindbergh posted at August 21, 2005 1:12 AM

Snarkistics. Tangent, you post whore! ;)

Comment from: larksilver posted at August 21, 2005 1:37 AM

Holy shit! He listed my name! Me, who more often than not is all Mother Hen at him, but seldom has anything really, yanno, literary to say. squeals with joy - seriously. My significant other over there just looked at me like I'm totally insane... and he's probably right.

I've been reading this wacky site at least once, usually twice, a day since sometime in early September of last year, maybe even earlier than that. It's my favorite spot on the web, bar none. I love the comics, of course, but this place enriches my comic-lovin' experience so, so much. In fact, the two are forever intertwined now; if you quit doing this.. well, don't, mmkay?

You've inspired me to be more creative. Coming here every day makes me push the world, the job, the mom responsibilities, everything that sucks up my time back, just for a while, and draw, paint, write. It's so easy, when your life is so full as mine, to forget to exercise that muscle until one day you look up and it's been months since you did any self-expression-y stuff and you think "holy shit! No wonder I'm so tired, and depressed!"

You and Wednesday, just by writing intelligent things about the creative process, have helped keep me from losing touch with that creative process, and reminded me each day of how much I need to create something.. anything. More than that, this little spot on the web, populated with people whose creative works also inspire me, has given me a place to go where I can sort of talk to other creative types. The people in my day-to-day life think I'm a bit.. odd, a grown woman sometimes playing with crayons (because dammit sometimes that's the look I want!). Here... I'm almost too straight, too normal, too boring for this group. But darnit, it's still a kick in the pants to go DO SOMETHING.

And for that, I thank you, Eric, Wednesday. This place rocks. As long as you want to continue this little experiment, I'm here. And not just cause you mentioned my name ... although that made my week (would be my month, but I've this birthday coming up, see....).

Comment from: Ms Saint posted at August 21, 2005 2:11 AM

This may be as good a time to ask as any: how do you feel about webcomic suggestions?

A long while ago, you said you wanted them. Then, not-so-long after that, you mentioned you had a huge list that you needed to look through and it was only getting longer. There're a few I'd like to point your way, but I just never knew whether it'd be smart or no.

Comment from: gwalla posted at August 21, 2005 2:17 AM

About a week from now my brain will finally process the fact that you listed my name among the first commenters you think of, and I will squeal loudly like a small girl. Probably in a public place.

...do I really post that much?

*looks at the stats page*


Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 21, 2005 2:20 AM

I look at that page... and I see all the people I should have mentioned in the first place. Like... well, Bo himself. Damn it, Bo -- where were you yesterday? ;)

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 21, 2005 2:20 AM

MsSaint -- I like them but I'm way behind on them. But sooner or later I click through and see what I can find. ;)

Comment from: Dr Phibes posted at August 21, 2005 2:32 AM

I'm generally not a commenter. I enjoy reading your comments and essays but don't find the occassion where I feel inspired enough to put fingers to keyboard. But seeing as this is a day for you I thought It's as good a time as any.

I believe I came to your site back during one of the PVP links you mentioned and decided to stick around.

When I first came here I read maybe a dozen Web Comics regularly. Now I'm reading over 40 thanks to snarks you've made where I followed the link and kept on reading. And while I understand the pressures of life I do find that days when there is nothing on your site to read seem to miss a little something when I'm going though my daily trawl.

I just want to say congratulations and hope that you and Wednesday keep up the good work for a long time to come.

Comment from: Dragonmuncher posted at August 21, 2005 2:52 AM

I don't even remember when I started reading Websnark.

At first I thought it was May, because that was when I got back from college, and Websnark saved my mind from going catatonic by giving me things to read at my job while I was waiting for someone to forget their email password, or need a print cartridge and the like.

Then I realized that I've been reading since before Weds came to the scene, so I've no idea. I remember thinking, when she first posted, "Who is this person? What, she's snarking live action Sailor Moon and Chick Tracts? What's going on here?" But now I take back any misgivings I had, as not only is her writing as interesting and well written as Eric's, she also has an alliterative name. Alliteration is worth at least 10 points.

Websnark has transformed webcomics for me from a little dalliance I went to when I wanted some video game humor, to a hobby that takes up a sizeable chunk of my time. I've gone from 6 to 42 webcomics in the space of a few months, and for that I have to thank websnark. Hell, even if most of them sucked, the Narbonics, Queen of Wands, and Something Positives would make it worth slogging through a lot of the other stuff out there. (And the Questionable Contents, Order of the Sticks, Dinosaur Comics, Sluggy Freelances...)

Luckily, I haven't had to do much slogging, since the snarks deliver pre-slogged comics For My Protection. I don't think I can name a snark that was actively negative about a strip (Even the You Had Me/You Lost Me snarks are, at worst, constructively critical).

I should probably be bitter that I lose an hour or so of my life each day just to support this habit. Are you proud of yourself, Eric? I could have been learning how to play the cello, or how to do a tracheotomy, or something equally useful. Instead, I'm doing this.

And I'm not even done yet! Sore Thumbs, Two Lumps, Todd and Penguin, Achewood, American Elf... and countless more that I keep meaning to read, because you've given them your Snark of Approval.

Keep up the great work, both of you, and hopefully many more years to come.

PS The Character Analysis of Max Powers was one of my favorite essays of all time.

Comment from: Merus posted at August 21, 2005 3:05 AM

As I write this, I apparantly have the same number of comments as a guy named Phil.

Well, bugger that for a game of soldiers.

I know I came with the PvP thing, read the article, and then left again. I think a couple of days later I decided to explore some more, and it took a couple of visits before I figured I might as well bookmark the site, and then saw you have a working RSS feed. Live Bookmarks ahoy!

I know I've picked up S*P, Girl Genius and CYS through Websnark, and I eventually relented on Sluggy and did the archive trawl thanks to Websnark as well.

Comment from: siwangmu posted at August 21, 2005 3:17 AM

I can't be the only one who started reading this post, read about how the lessened stress at work a year ago led to Eric creating this blog, recalled the recent high-stressosity and started freaking out that this post was some kind of hiatus or something, right?

Man, don't DO that to me!

I've been addicted since... uh... circa October? I lurked for a month or two before I started (intermittently) commenting. For me, it was the writing style, straight off the bat. Some people's styles are just immediately accessible to you, and so it was the opposite of Kurtz--it was "I get Eric" and that's just a damn good feeling. And by get I mean "have no idea what he's talking about but can imagine it perfectly through evocation." At least at first; now I'm starting to actually know references! That should definitely be a warning sign. Anyway, add me to the "a day isn't a day without websnark" list.

And I'm totally taking tiny partial credit for all the compliments about posting--I figure you woulda listed me, except I'm always saying exactly what you're thinking, so you forget it wasn't you who said it. Right? Right? Okay, except that time I flew off the handle and tried to set djcoffman on fire (sorry!). And, by the way, you know you're unmitigatedly awesome when djcoffman comes into your thread... to say a bunch of happy fluffy things.

(Totally don't care about "making the list," by the way, just think it was awesome of you to try and list anybody, plus even I skim the names on the comments half the time unless someone's arguing, and, well, I'm not really important, but read that in the non-false-modesty way).

For the record, I think it's possible that I got here via SP, because that was the obsession that drew me back into webcomics last fall after an extended absence, alhtough I now keep up with this blog more consistently than with any comic.

A weird note; to people like me who were relatively unversed in the behind-the-scenes and lore of webcomickry before this site, "gwalla" is a more familiar name than some of the creators. Is that a bad thing?

(and you may or may not all know my posts--they're the long blocks of text you have to skip to save your sanity! This site has taught me singlehandedly to try and make paragraphs)

also I GOT MY T-SHIRT I LOVE IT SO MUCH! (Back from Japan-->finally got package I didn't want to try having mailed overseas)

Comment from: siwangmu posted at August 21, 2005 3:20 AM

Okay, I suck for double-posting, but:

"[these snarks] deliver pre-slogged comics For My Protection"

. . .

Squee! Is great phrase!

Comment from: Robert Hutchinson posted at August 21, 2005 3:27 AM

I think SGR linked to Websnark. It's hard to remember, what with JohnA's minimalist link-description tendencies, plus no archive of his sidebars.

I didn't bring it up at the time, but I am a true heretic when it comes to making -s words possessive. My ugly rule of thumb is "write 's only when you would add an (additional) 'ess' sound to the end of the spoken word".

(So, does Hay-soos get an apostrophe-S?)

Comment from: JRyanBeattie posted at August 21, 2005 4:34 AM

I started reading Websnark back at about the second link from PvP. I've been lurking ever since, though this is the first time I've actually posted, I think. Registered just for this.

Been interesting. I like reading what you write, Eric. It often inspires me to work on my novel-in-progress. (Yes, I know, everyone has a novel-in-progress. I can't decide if that's good or bad.) It's turned me onto some good webcomics, and given me insights into ones I already read. Been a cool journey so far. I look forward to continuing on with you, sir.

Also, is it bad that I think of D.J. Coffman as "that guy who sometimes comments on Websnark" instead of the guy who does Yirmumah?

Comment from: miyaa posted at August 21, 2005 4:38 AM

If the snark statistics were Nascar points, would that made me the last guy in the Chase for the Championships? (Top 20? Do I post that much?)

And Eric, to be one of those among the first people you thought about as you list the "contributors", I am so honored. And either my allergies are acting up again, or I am really crying.

The Scott Kurtz Nailin' it post on his website lead me to Websnark, and I really like it from the start. I especially like it when we deviate into things like Jack Chick (we really need a new Chick post), Anime and the bad side of it (Which is worse: Live-Action or Dojinshi?) and pretty much everything involving Canadian, British, or Asian culture.

The best thing about the internet is how you get a really good snapshot (or longer periods of time) about a particular person and their culture they find themselves immersed in. Baring your soul and your opinions, even anomymousishly, is a brave thing to do, something I would not do on my own. The internet has allowed all of us to find our own voice, even if we had already found it before. And that is a truly beautiful thing. (The worst thing about the internet is the drama and the ability to hide behind that very anomymousishly thing. And "Internet Dating." Did you know there are companies that try to match together WoW and FFIX gamers for a live face-to-face date? How sad is that? So it's a double edged keened sword, this internet.) So, carry on what you're doing, Eric. I think you and Wednesday have found a purpose in life.

I really need to stop crying. I am such a smuck today.

Comment from: Tangent posted at August 21, 2005 7:30 AM

Snarkistics. Tangent, you post whore! ;)

Posted by: Bo Lindbergh

That becomes even more impressive when you learn that I only started reading (and replying to) Websnark a few months ago. My Gods, I'm the Skane of Websnark! O_O

(Skane being a Keenspot forums poster who achieved the title of Keenspot Deity (having 10,000+ posts) after 3 years.)

Wordy little git, ain't I? *blinkblinks*

Robert A. Howard, Tangents Webcomic Reviews


Comment from: William_G posted at August 21, 2005 8:27 AM

Eric, thanks for the shout-out. But to be quite honest, my being the focal point of the uglier episodes here... well, I'm simply not worthy.

But my offer to play the Marvel Superheroes RPG with you still stands.

Keep on, keeping on, my brother.

Comment from: Wednesday posted at August 21, 2005 1:19 PM

Tangent, you post whore! ;)

HA! More comments than Robert A. Howard! I WIN! I AM THE BIGGER WHORE -- oh, wait.

Comment from: Tyler Martin posted at August 21, 2005 1:22 PM

I road in on a random webcomic drama tour bus some time ago and have enjoyed the posts and following discussions since then. I was excited thinking I had stumbled upon some secret underground society of the webcomic community... and well, I kind of had, but it's gotten dug up and that's a good thing.

Thanks for all the words entered and words to come.

-Tyler Martin


Comment from: Alexander Danner posted at August 21, 2005 1:44 PM

Congratulations, Eric! I know I don't post very much, but I'm still reading every day. And hopefully next time we're in the same place at the same time, we'll get to socialize a bit more.

Comment from: Arthur Mundane posted at August 21, 2005 2:19 PM

Dang, thanks for jogging my memory. I had started to think that I'd gotten excited about webcomics thanks to The Daily Grind, when really, as you remind me, I came in with the others from the Slumbering Lungfish, and only got to the Daily Grind from your link. Now I remember it was actually Websnark that got me started thinking about creating a blog and also thinking seriously about webcomics and possibly even writing one. Not that any of that has been particularly successful, but I don't regret you getting me started on that line of thought.

Congratulations on the anniversary, Eric. And congratulations on handling the Internet fame so well.

Seriously, Lore linked to my blog once and I went into giddy shock and basically stopped posting. Now you too are a TITAN OF THE INTERWEB.


Comment from: quiller posted at August 21, 2005 2:43 PM

Hmm, I've got a more prominent place than I thought on that list, but I do seem to have a lot of $0.02 to put in.

The more interesting bit to me is the number of 1 post entries. People moved enough be individual snarks to sign up (unless they already had typekey accounts), make their comment and then fade into the background. I'm not sure what it means, the one I recall is Terrence Marks coming on here to correct an misstatement I made concerning how many comics Isabel Marks makes, (in a comment to a snark about R Milholland starting Midnight Macabre and returning to New Gold Dreams). Perhaps it just means there are some dedicated lurkers out there as well.

Comment from: Tangent posted at August 21, 2005 2:52 PM

HA! More comments than Robert A. Howard! I WIN! I AM THE BIGGER WHORE -- oh, wait.

Posted by: Wednesday

And that's why we love you so much, lass. ;) Though I wonder if you have more posts than me because you have actual *articles* on here, or if the Snarkoleptics listing is just for comments posted.


Comment from: siwangmu posted at August 21, 2005 3:16 PM

Okay, so I only just figured out that the above link is the stats page to which everyone has been referring, and I have to say: I'm above the fold! That shows what a bad influence this place has been on me. Although I've been a pretty bad influence on this place myself, given I must have the last ocmment on about a dozen different threads where I get there weeks late and just have to say something anyway... so my figures, slightly inflated. Not that this post will help matters, come to think of it.

Also: Eric has three times as many comments as any civilian. I know it makes sense, but still... way to show us up, man!

Comment from: Jamie posted at August 21, 2005 3:20 PM

I╠ll put my cards on the table and admit that I was disappointed when I found out you didn╠t care much for COTC. That╠s cool. Not everyone can like everything. I╠m not that crazy about Manga comics, which let╠s me out of about 90% of webcomics ¸ okay, 80%. ;) The point is that even though you didn╠t like the comic, you still said very nice things about it, and that is rare in the Internet community, let alone the webcomics community. So, let me congratulate you on the year, the inspiration you have given to so many, the respect you have given so many, and for being such a class act! Thanks for a good read!

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 21, 2005 3:23 PM

Also: Eric has three times as many comments as any civilian. I know it makes sense, but still... way to show us up, man!

Don't be too impressed. I live in New Hampshire.

Comment from: John Allison posted at August 21, 2005 4:15 PM

Congratulations on your big year, Eric. You're right, I've never linked to you, mainly because I believe I've never received a review with precisely the level of grandeur and deference I expect. It's only 11 months until some jumped-up popinjay steals my WCCA crown, I need the adulation before the debauchery of life at the top takes its inevitable toll.

Comment from: Shaenon posted at August 21, 2005 4:22 PM

Eric, you failed to mention the most important reason for starting a webcomics site:

Getting laid.

I mean, come on. That's why I do it.

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 21, 2005 4:29 PM

John -- right. I'll get to work on that "Freckled Shelley is cute; John Allison declared God-King" snark.

Shaenon -- well, I thought that was implicit.

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 21, 2005 4:33 PM

(Crap. I forgot Jin Wicked in that list too. I'm not updating the commenters because... well, by definition I was going to forget obvious and glaringly appropriate choices, like 32_footsteps and siwangmu et al. And I forgot Jamie too. Damn it.)

Jamie -- hey, there's a core difference between "not my cup of tea" and "not good." COTC might not be my cup of tea, but it's clearly, explicitly good. If there is fault, it is in me.

Comment from: Jamie posted at August 21, 2005 5:02 PM

Eric -- Don╠t say that. Then it would be my fault for not liking the ¤Toho-Honda Meow-Meow Cat Girl Spaz HourË or some such. ;)

Comment from: Bo Lindbergh posted at August 21, 2005 7:49 PM

Quoth Tangent:

Though I wonder if you have more posts than me because you have actual *articles* on here, or if the Snarkoleptics listing is just for comments posted.

Only comments are included in the count, no original entries. There's also some material dated earlier in 2004 that seems to have been consolidated from elsewhere and has no TypeKey profile links on the comments; those are excluded too.

Comment from: Aerin posted at August 21, 2005 9:41 PM

Dude, I've only been commenting for about three months (reading since QoW ended in February and Eric was tracking Kestrel's appearance in other comics), and I'm in the top 20. Dude.

I love that Websnark eloquently and very intelligently brings up some fairly large issues in webcomics, and lets us discuss them eloquently and intelligenly with some of the biggest names in our little industry. For an Internet community, the literacy of each Snarkoleptic is almost astonishing.

Happy birthday, Websnark. Eric, you've done a wonderful thing for webcomics.

Comment from: Starline posted at August 21, 2005 9:43 PM

Happy B-day Websnark!

Love what you've been doing with your critiques. :)

Comment from: BZArcher posted at August 21, 2005 11:50 PM

Good lord, the State of the Snark address.

I'm even more scared that I started reading so close to the beginng, because you linked Snowspinner's Pulp Decameron, and since he's one of my best friends, I got pointed to your looksees.

You've done awesome things since then. I've no doubt you'll continue that as this expands.

Congratulations, Eric. (And Weds, and the Snarkees, and fellow peanut gallery, and...)

Comment from: Alan Sharkey posted at August 22, 2005 6:56 AM

I have to say thanks to Eric Burns, because he has introduced me to a hell of a lot of stuff that I would have otherwise have missed. Perhaps you should do testimonials...

"Without Websnark, I would have lost my home, my wife, and my car. But now, life is good again!"

Since I started reading Websnark, I've gotten into comics in a big way, or at least, appreciated them more than I would have previously. Seeing, for instance, literary criticism of superheroes and comics has been a joy to behold, and really got me looking at those characters that I'd never heard of before ("The Question? The Green Arrow? Who are all these people?!"). It has also, I admit, lessened the degree of elitism that I have previously had concerning many comics. That was wrong and stupid and bad of me, and I should be slapped with the Salmon of Doubt almost immediately for my transgressions.

There is an art to criticism, like any other form of writing, and the talent to write criticism that is as readable and entertaining as any actual fictional creation is a rare thing indeed. And Eric's got it in spades.

To the next million and a half words!

Comment from: Karacan posted at August 22, 2005 1:08 PM

Congratulations. Heartfelt. Your amazing writing skills are even more part of my daily comic trawl than the comics themselves. This is the only blog I follow devoutly, this is the only writing I even remotely consider commenting on - I'm a consumer at heart. :)

You... well... rock. Dude. I'd probably not squeal in delight at seeing you, but then again I'm not a beautiful girl at all. I would go around wearing a cheshire-cat-grin all day, though.

Comment from: Matt Sweeney posted at August 22, 2005 1:48 PM

New mission in life, get mentioned in next year's, State of the Snark address. I guess that would involve posting some kind of substance though...

Congrats Eric and Weds. I came in with the Max Powers link, and have thoroughly enjoyed my time here. As others have said, while the subject of your writings is ussually top notch, the style is always perfect.

I also need to add my name to the 'inspired by' list. Well, I will if I can acctually get the thing off the ground. It isn't comics related, but reading this site has gotten me to start thinking about writing about music again. And so I've started a new blog to motivate myself. If anything ever happens with it, it'll be all your fault.

Finally, is the Snarkistics site real time, or snapshot? I think it would be cool to get a real time version.

Comment from: Bo Lindbergh posted at August 22, 2005 1:58 PM

It's a static scraped snapshot.

Comment from: jpcardier posted at August 22, 2005 3:18 PM

Hey Eric,

Congratulations on keeping it up. It's really been an incredible ride.

Because of you, I started a Blog section of my links. I read other blogs from time to time, but never one daily, until I came across Websnark. It really is a great site.


Comment from: mckenzee posted at August 22, 2005 8:38 PM


Wow, I got listed twice and in the comments as someone who was found.

Thanks Eric. I've found a few friends through you.

Comment from: 32_footsteps posted at August 22, 2005 8:57 PM

You know, even whilst away from my computer for a weekend at Otakon, I couldn't help but to discuss Websnark (I talked with ConnectiCon folks at a dinner for anime con staffers). It's just something that sticks with you.

Okay, the amount of webcomic people helped there alot too. It was a kick to see how many there were, and how many were doing well. I mean, I bought Van Von Hunter, volume 1 at the con. Geez, I started reading VVH about 6 weeks after it started, and now it's being hyped on the bags of one of the largest manga printers in the United States. It's a great time to be a webcomics fan.

Anyhow, I first found the site because of Kurtz as well, from his first mention of Websnark. It wasn't until the second one, though, that I felt I had to stick around and comment some more. The first year is the hardest - and you've gotten this far, so you've succeeded quite well.

Heh, look, a commenter statistic list. Let's take a look... wow. I really don't know when to shut up, do I? If you eliminate the Websnark Duo, I'm apparently the second-most loquacious Snarkoleptic. And if I recall how many of those are centered around debates (the Harry Potter spoiler debate, the Penny Arcade Biscuit debate, etc.), it makes a frightening amount of sense that I bought the "I Aggro Drama" shirt almost immediately.

And Matt Sweeney did say that one of my comments should have been put on a t-shirt once. That's probably my highlight of the comment sections, followed closely by siwangmu taking my six favorite words and writing a sestina with them.

Okay, all of that aside, here's why I'm here so much, I comment so much, and what I see in you, Eric. In regards with the web, you remind me so much of myself. If you remember some of my comments, clearly not in regards to our opinions (how many times have I vehemently disagreed?).

However, in regards to how you approach your passions, many of which in general overlap my own, you seem like a hazy reflection of myself. You're just a guy in New England, writing as much as you can. And you write what you can because you care about it. It really wouldn't matter if nobody read it or if you were the most read author in the world; you'd still write it. You do it for the love of your subject, and you wouldn't compromise it for anything. And you can recognize the ugly things about what you love and love it unconditionally anyhow. I feel much the same way about my own passions, and I always find it worthwhile to talk with people who feel the same.

Moreover, because your passion is genuine, you've gotten all sorts of connections you never dreamed of. It doesn't seem real, does it, to have the people that fascinate you and captivate you turn to you and even at times look up to you? You want to completely geek out about these people talking to you and becoming more than drawings on the screen, even as they become excited because you've talked to them. I also know the feeling - but this is your moment, so I'll just say that I know and leave it at that.

I look at geekdom like a mountain. Everyone starts at the bottom. And if you work hard, look for opportunities to build, you climb up it and more people can see you on the mountain. You don't think you've climbed that far until you look down and say, "Sweet merciful monkeys, look how far down the ground is!" It seems like half the time you have hardly climbed anywhere and are nothing compared to the top of the mountain, and other times it's almost scary how far you've climbed. But once, just in a great while, you're able to breathe in the beautiful clean air and just take in everything around you.

Look around at it all, Eric. The scenery is beautiful.

Comment from: siwangmu posted at August 23, 2005 2:15 AM

Sweet Merciful Monkeys!

Comment from: DarkStar posted at August 23, 2005 10:48 AM

Eric, you must know now that I hold you personally responsible for more than doubling my first Internet Addition (web comics). I read a handful before Websnark. True, they were growing. I even had some of your staples on my list before I began reading your work. Of course, the rate at which I began adding them to my list has increased beyond my ability to keep up. I literally have more comics in my ¤to readË folder than I have in my daily trawls. Your fault.

I also blame you for causing my second Internet Addiction (blogs). This list is still short, but yours was the first. My list is select, but would never have been at all if I had not required a better way to track Websnark posts (and easily read the comments) than just surfing to the main page every day. Hence my newsreader plugin and the slowly growing list of (mostly writers╠) blogs that I have accumulated.

Fortunately you have no hand in my third Internet Addiction (Audio Drama, mostly from BBC Radio 7).

And now I have no internet for as much as three weeks. I╠ve just moved, I╠m getting married in four weeks and my life is in near-complete disarray. I╠ve had to steal a little time at work to print your posts to PDF so that I can read them at leisure on my laptop, the only computer I have as of yet hooked up.

And I miss reading and communicating with you and the rest of your community greatly (already!). You inspire me to greater things.

Cheers to you. I raise my glass to your work and your future success. You deserve it.

Comment from: Kirath posted at August 23, 2005 11:32 AM

I don't post here often, but hey, I just had to today. This is the sort of article I miss when I don't check the site over the weekend!

I certainly wasn't here from the beginning, but I read almost every day, definitely while I am at work. I started reading when Howard Taylor linked you from his font page news post on Schlock Mercenary. That was one of a handful of webcomics I read at the time, primarily from Keenspot. Dominic Deegan (Which I would love to see a snark on, by the way) El Goonish Shive, GPF, Gaming Guardians,College Roomies from Hell, It's Walky(And Roomies before that), Fans, Wapsi Square, and a handful of non-keenspot comics, Something Positive and Queen of Wands, which I had found linked from w00t comics, Sluggy Freelance,Real Life, 8-bit theatre, Megatokyo(Sometimes) , /GU comics, WTF comics(Talk about a niche of a niche, a webcomic specifically about Everquest), and briefly, A Modest Destiny(Mmmm, tasty, tasty drama.)

The comics I read have been fruitful and multiplied, however, since I started reading here. Narbonic(How can I not read a comic that gets mentioned THAT many times?) Digger, Questionable Content, Order of the Stick, Goats, Kevin & Kell, just to name a few of my list, because I don't want to be typing all day.

I love your writing, Eric, and a lot of your stuff about the creative process has led me to dust off my old notebooks and maybe start writing again. And then my girlfriend decided she wanted to start drawing more, so we got her a WACOM tablet, and she's been having a blast making up little one-shot comics for our EQ2 guild... all we need now is some story and some funny, and maybe... nah... well, maybe...

Comment from: Kirath posted at August 23, 2005 11:33 AM

Anyway, the point i was trying to make that I forgot to write at the end of my ramble there was:

COngratulations, Eric, I am looking forward to another year!

Comment from: KJToo posted at August 23, 2005 12:59 PM

I don't remember exactly how I "found" Websnark, but I do remember why I decided to keep reading:

  1. You are a City of Heroes player with some very insightful observations about the game.
  2. Your essays on Kurtz's PvPOnline characters are spot-on.
  3. Shortly after I stopped reading GPF Comics, the strip made your You Had Me, And You Lost me list, and your reasons for pulling it from your trawl might as well have been kin to my own, probably an older, more well-spoken brother. Ditto for MegaTokyo.
  4. You keep introducing me to new strips. My own Daily Trawl is pretty short, but more than one strip on it is there because you snarked it once upon a time.
  5. You're not a jackwad. That's... well, it's important. You're a nice guy. Thanks for being a nice guy.

Comment from: KJToo posted at August 23, 2005 1:05 PM

Wow. So much for ordered lists. That's supposed to be a list. Of five things. It looked better as a list, honest.

Just so this isn't a completely wasted comment, I encourage you to check out David Campbell's blogs, Dave's Long Box and Velvet Marauder. The former is Dave going through his comic collection and reviewing select books. The latter is... well, it's the Velvet Marauder, protector of Evergreen City.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at August 23, 2005 1:13 PM

Not all HTML is effective in the TypeKey environment. The preview pane may like to play tricks with line or paragraph breaks, but in other formatting it is your friend.

Comment from: KJToo posted at August 23, 2005 1:17 PM

"Not all HTML is effective in the TypeKey environment. The preview pane may like to play tricks with line or paragraph breaks, but in other formatting it is your friend."

Interestingly enough, the ordered list looked just like an ordered list in the Preview. When I posted the comment, however, the formatting went away.

Eric, I remember you once upon a time toying with the idea of switching to WordPress. Have you abandoned that idea or is it still an option?

Comment from: Eric Burns posted at August 23, 2005 1:34 PM

Eric, I remember you once upon a time toying with the idea of switching to WordPress. Have you abandoned that idea or is it still an option?

Sadly, after using WordPress as the engine for Gossamer Commons, it's safe to say we've abandoned plans to move Websnark to it. But, we have high hopes for MT 3.2 resolving some of our Typekey and commenting issues.

Comment from: Paul Gadzikowski posted at August 23, 2005 5:10 PM

"Not all HTML is effective in the TypeKey environment. The preview pane may like to play tricks with line or paragraph breaks, but in other formatting it is your friend."

Interestingly enough, the ordered list looked just like an ordered list in the Preview. When I posted the comment, however, the formatting went away.

Oh. So much for what I know.

Comment from: Phil Kahn posted at August 25, 2005 1:56 AM

Didn't get to see this when it was posted. Otakon and all. Sorry I missed it.

For the record, you and some guy are the reason I got into the game. You did it for a while, I decided I might like doing it too. Then some guy in the snarkoleptics said "My Crit-Blog should be up by Monday."

And I said, "Fuck. If he's gonna do it, I'd better get in the game."

I e-mailed you, considering you the authority on the matter. I remember distinctly giving you my "credentials." You gave me your blessing. I got started. And here I am. Not having updated in like a fortnight, but still.

I get a little starstruck with you, ya know. I see the occasional link and go, "Oh shit!" I see you mention something that's been going on in my life in a meme and go "Dude. He's paying attention. Too cool."

I'm working on getting to that level you mentioned, the post-star-struck level. But for now, you're the man.

Dude. Congrats.

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